Buyin a VTEC YO!!!!!

[qwikz28]

yup, i pretty much made up my mind and since winter is coming it looks like im buying a honda powered car.... an 06 saturn vue. it has the honda 3.5 v6 with 250 horsepower and awd. a review i read got this thing to do the 1320 in the low 15s, bone ass stock. i have until next tuesday to find something else but i searched everywhere today and i am yet to find a better deal for the money. second choice right now is a used jeep gc but i would rather get a new car. what do you guys think? who would have thought of the day i would go into a saturn dealership and say i want that car?

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/vehicles/vue/overview.jsp

[NJSPEEDER]

looks like a good ride. not the hottest styling, but not bad.
for that price point i would look at a jeep wrangler X package. more off roadable, similar gas mileage, about 1500bucks more, and similar insurance class.

[Brando56894]

the good thing about japanese cars is you can beat the crap outta them and they still keep runnin!

[NJSPEEDER]

the good thing about japanese cars is you can beat the crap outta them and they still keep runnin!

i do that with american cars :)

[foff667]

the good thing about japanese cars is you can beat the crap outta them and they still keep runnin!

yeah i definitly say thats a good bit myth...there are plenty of gm cars that can/have gone 200+ miles...i think tim's family had 2 of them hehe

[qwikz28]

yeah i definitly say thats a good bit myth...there are plenty of gm cars that can/have gone 200+ miles...i think tim's family had 2 of them hehe
my buddies saturn has 260k on the original motor and only the second tranny.

[qwikz28]

looks like a good ride. not the hottest styling, but not bad.
for that price point i would look at a jeep wrangler X package. more off roadable, similar gas mileage, about 1500bucks more, and similar insurance class.
personally i dont mind the styling as much as the liberty. and the wrangler is too rough for me. im looking for a truck that i will use for driving on long distance spurts. i drove my buddies 05 wrangler last week and its not something i wanna put 10 or 15k miles a year on. the interior in the vue is nicer then that of every other car in its class i have seen. i almost threw up when i saw the interior in the hyundai santa fe this morning. makes my fbody look like a luxury car

edit: i also dont want a car that i can take off road. if it can make it through the trails i will do it and thats why my isuzu is dead right now. and i blew my rear end and my brake master cylender in the mud two years ago

[NJSPEEDER]

yeah i definitly say thats a good bit myth...there are plenty of gm cars that can/have gone 200+ miles...i think tim's family had 2 of them hehe

my dad's buick century went 470k on original motor/trans/suspension. damn thing wouldn't die. after prolly 4 years of saying"as soon as it dies i wanna buy a new car" my dad gave up and jsut bought a new damn car. lol

[NJSPEEDER]

jeep liberty = hunk of crap. they don't ride good, interior is all plasticy(is that a word?) and looks fragile, and they handle like garbage even going around corners slowly.

[BigAls87Z28]

Uh...Saturn is an American company.
Why didnt you go with the Redline?

[Savage_Messiah]

Uh...Saturn is an American company.
Why didnt you go with the Redline?

Uh...Saturn uses a honda motor in the vue?

[Teds89IROC]

American cars do last a good ammount of time too. Many years ago my dads friend wanted a new engine for his camaro, his dad was telling him not to waste his money because he just put money into the engine he had..he said wait till it dies. So him and my dad ran it with no water/coolant and it still was going, wouldn't die..so they pissed in it and donated it to a HS auto shop :lol:

~Ted

[foff667]

Uh...Saturn uses a honda motor in the vue?

yeah i was considering one...they get like 30mpg highway in an SUV and arent horribly slow. Their chevy counterparts get the 3400 but lack like 40hp and dont get as good gas mileage...plus i think the saturns have a longer warranty.

[Rob WS6]

Since when does Saturn, an American car, use Honda engines? WTF!

[JL8Jeff]

the good thing about japanese cars is you can beat the crap outta them and they still keep runnin!

:sad: Um, no! My brother killed 2 Hondas all by himself. Meanwhile, every GM vehicle I have ever owned was still going strong when I sold it. Lots of 454SS pickups have over 200K miles on them. Personally, I think AWD is overrated and it isn't needed 99% of the time. Just get something with front wheel drive and you'll get better gas mileage and still be able to get around in the snow. My old 89 Cavalier Z24 was incredible in the snow. But I managed to survive 5 winters with my 93 Z28 Indy Pace Car as a daily driver and 1 year with my 91 454SS as a daily driver. So you don't really need AWD or 4WD.

[BigAls87Z28]

Honda traded some 3.5 5spd combos for some hydrogen and engine development technology. GM gets an import engine for the import fighter, and Honda's CRV looks mega weaksauce packing a 120hp 4 banger.
The Nox and Torrent get the China sourced, 60* V6 3400 185hp and 5spd combo which gets about teh same gas milage as its smaller and faster counterpart.
Everyone is into the sharring.
The Vibe is a Matrix, and is GM's worst rated for quality.
BMW used GM's 5spd autos for years.
Ford and GM are going to be releasing there joint venture 6spd auto for FWD and GM is working with Chrysler and someone else...for hyrbid technology.

Lets not forget how Chrysler stole not only the original small block design for there small block, but they did it again for the hemi design. So nice of them...

[qwikz28]

Uh...Saturn is an American company.
Why didnt you go with the Redline?
the redline cant tow. the gfx get in the way of the hitch. if i could tow with it, i would probably get it

[BigAls87Z28]

Let me get this straight....you bought an unibody, car based SUV to tow?
Nothing for nothing, but thats probably not the first option Id think. You could have gotten a 2wd or 4wd Tblazer with the 290hp I-6 for about teh same price.
I would opt for the Vue over the Tblazer because of the nicer interior (Vue was just redone and looks great) but if I were to get a Theta SUV, it would have been the Nox or the Torrent. Larger capcity and flexable seating are sweet.

[qwikz28]

Let me get this straight....you bought an unibody, car based SUV to tow?
Nothing for nothing, but thats probably not the first option Id think. You could have gotten a 2wd or 4wd Tblazer with the 290hp I-6 for about teh same price.
I would opt for the Vue over the Tblazer because of the nicer interior (Vue was just redone and looks great) but if I were to get a Theta SUV, it would have been the Nox or the Torrent. Larger capcity and flexable seating are sweet.
the most i'll be towing is a couple 4-wheelers or a small boat at most. i do like the trailblazer al but its a little big for my taste. i had to drive one up from PA to NYC one day and you never really notice how big that thing is until you're trying to weave through traffic with it. the vue gets a ton more power up top that the nox just lost wind and gave up after about 3k. the 2 main things that really strike me about the nox are the styling and the flexible rear seating. since the truck will get a lot of highway and commuting mileage i think the unibody design will be adventageous for me.

[12secondv6]

I had an incident in a saturn...... something to the affect of 80-90 mph around a turn that is posted 25.....

I had made it through the turn at 70 before.... that last time I did not.

I shortened the car by 1/2 inch.

It was damn safe.... I was 100% fine.

[Savage_Messiah]

I had an incident in a saturn...... something to the affect of 80-90 mph around a turn that is posted 25.....

I had made it through the turn at 70 before.... that last time I did not.

I shortened the car by 1/2 inch.

It was damn safe.... I was 100% fine.

:helmet:

[qwikz28]

I had an incident in a saturn...... something to the affect of 80-90 mph around a turn that is posted 25.....

I had made it through the turn at 70 before.... that last time I did not.

I shortened the car by 1/2 inch.

It was damn safe.... I was 100% fine.
God loves saturns

[bad64chevelle]

God hates ricers!

[qwikz28]

God hates ricers!
God loves everyone jon. dont be blasphemist

[trashman01]

yea when when a dog jumps out infront of u, u have a fender that blows apart.

[qwikz28]

yea when when a dog jumps out infront of u, u have a fender that blows apart.
hell yeah! im gonna be driving a car made of nerf! weight reduction!

[jims69camaro]

jeep liberty = hunk of crap. they don't ride good, interior is all plasticky(that is a word) and looks fragile, and they handle like garbage even going around corners slowly.

have you ever spent any time behind the wheel of one? everything you said is misleading, imho.

the dash is polished aluminum and carbon fiber. everything else is either leather or carpet. i've lost my nerve before the tires lost adhesion on turns (80+ mph). and they ride better than any japanese car i've ever been in, outside of a lexus ls400. you have to keep the tires inflated to the recommended poundage and check the fluids regularly, but outside of that we've had zero problems with the '02.

i did have leather seats put in it before i picked it up, but they are OEM.

there are sites dedicated to their off-road ability with slight mods to the suspension. i was thinking about buying the wife a new car and taking the liberty for my own vehicle.

it's been years since i've driven one, but the last time i was in a wrangler i thought i was going to have to have a kidney transplant.

[qwikz28]

have you ever spent any time behind the wheel of one? everything you said is misleading, imho.

the dash is polished aluminum and carbon fiber. everything else is either leather or carpet. i've lost my nerve before the tires lost adhesion on turns (80+ mph). and they ride better than any japanese car i've ever been in, outside of a lexus ls400. you have to keep the tires inflated to the recommended poundage and check the fluids regularly, but outside of that we've had zero problems with the '02.

i did have leather seats put in it before i picked it up, but they are OEM.

there are sites dedicated to their off-road ability with slight mods to the suspension. i was thinking about buying the wife a new car and taking the liberty for my own vehicle.

it's been years since i've driven one, but the last time i was in a wrangler i thought i was going to have to have a kidney transplant.
yeah but i was gonna buy the cheapo base model and the saturn is a much better buy (powertrain/interior speaking) not to mention i hate the styling of the liberty but thats only opinion which doesnt really matter

[qwikz28]

wooot!

[Dark_Knight7096]

the good thing about japanese cars is you can beat the crap outta them and they still keep runnin!


The last Street Wars (domestic vs import) i went to at englishtown lasted 12 hours or so, only about 2 or 3 were actual racing, the other 8 or 9 hours were all the domestics waiting for the officials to clean the tracks off cause the imports kept breaking. They were dropping trans pans and cracking blocks and whatnot left and right. i would say out of every 10 imports to line up on the starting line only about 2 or 3 made it all the way down the track. Sad track record. Imports reliable? About as reliable as me if you ask me to do something within 15 minutes of waking up.

I was driving past a Honda dealership yesterday and there was a banner there. It said, "All Honda's, 0% Interest!!!" I was like, "yeah, my thought's exactly."

[Ian]

in the import drag racers defense, they try to push a ton of power out of half a block, of course its gonna break! :lol:

[Savage_Messiah]

you gotta at least use 3/4 of a block ;)

[12secondv6]

My mom had a jeep liberty..... good god.... cheap car.... no power.... top heavy... she got rid of it in 1 year.

[qwikz28]

tell her to get a vue. :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

post up pics of the VTEC

[qwikz28]

post up pics of the VTEC
lost my digital camera. anyone got a camera to lend? :(

[Ian]

lost my digital camera. anyone got a camera to lend? :(

take a picture with your laptop phone.

And I agree with James, Liberties = mega crap!

[qwikz28]

i did and now i dont know how to use webshots. they removed the link for me to edit my albums. this is too difficult.