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Tsar 08-04-2006 01:11 PM

or how about you shut the **** up and get the **** out of grown up thread. How countries be so stupid? how the can you be so stupid? maybe i should ask yur mother. You dont know jack **** about any of the stuff we're talking about, you can't even jack up your own car without it falling off for gods sake! I'm tired of reading your stupid garbage, **** maybe getting banned if worth it...

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 01:29 PM

wayfast shut the **** up, sit back, and learn before you open your retarted ass mouth again.


How can they be so stupid?? YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THOSE VOTES WERE ON. The US isn't omnipotent, isn't always right, hell isn't een close to it!

I also stand behind this country 100% - or I should say, stand behind this country's ideals - but seriously, you knwo how many doctors we're getting from india??

WayFast84 08-04-2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
or how about you shut the **** up and get the **** out of grown up thread. How countries be so stupid? how the can you be so stupid? maybe i should ask yur mother. You dont know jack **** about any of the stuff we're talking about, you can't even jack up your own car without it falling off for gods sake! I'm tired of reading your stupid garbage, **** maybe getting banned if worth it...

boo hoo u got such a bad life and claim to have seen it all. I know more **** then you, I know I wont be cleaning diapers for a living when im around 22 :rofl:


kasey

I agree with you but still, they are receiving hundreds of thousand of are money that we dont need to be handing out.

When katrina happened how many of those countrys gave us some help 1 or 2 right. exzactly

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
boo hoo u got such a bad life and claim to have seen it all. I know more **** then you, I know I wont be cleaning diapers for a living when im around 22 :rofl:


kasey

I agree with you but still, they are receiving hundreds of thousand of are money that we dont need to be handing out.

When katrina happened how many of those countrys gave us some help 1 or 2 right. exzactly

yea, you'll still be scraping up cow **** on a farm.


Do you know the state of their economy?? Not many countries can afford to give out aid money like we do.

WayFast84 08-04-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
yea, you'll still be scraping up cow **** on a farm.

They dont even have cows. I dont even tough the animals unless it roostie :sad: I make $7.50 an hour what 14 year old do you know making that?

Tsar 08-04-2006 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
boo hoo u got such a bad life and claim to have seen it all. I know more **** then you, I know I wont be cleaning diapers for a living when im around 22 :rofl:

Sorry timmay...

Im 20 you *******, and i never claimed that ive seen absolutely everything in life. I sure have seen more then you, and im sure of it. I dont clean anyones diapers thats what CNAs are for, i work in the kitchen, before you open your stupid 14 year old mouth why dont you get your facts straight. My job allows me to pay for the **** i need and the **** i want, so i dont have to beg my mommy for money or rides or whatever else you beg for.
Unlike you im actually responisble i took care of myself since i was 11 years old, unlike you i dont need approval of others, and once again unlike you i dont lack inteligence. How are you smarter then me? for gods sake most of your post are simple answers that require no more then a simple search, and you claim to be smarter then i am? please, you're as retarded as they come. **** you couldnt even jack up your car right, you reatard.
And for my last point, please tell your mom that next time i would advice her that she should swallow so she doesn't have any more offsprings like you, people like you disgrace this lovely planet that we live on.

Tsar 08-04-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
They dont even have cows. I dont even tough the animals unless it roostie :sad: I make $7.50 an hour what 14 year old do you know making that?

i was making 10.50 when i was 16 money thru fridays, 15.75 on sat. and 31.50 on sunday so stfu.

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
They dont even have cows. I dont even tough the animals unless it roostie :sad: I make $7.50 an hour what 14 year old do you know making that?

yea but how many hours a week

WayFast84 08-04-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
Sorry timmay...

Im 20 you *******, and i never claimed that ive seen absolutely everything in life. I sure have seen more then you, and im sure of it. I dont clean anyones diapers thats what CNAs are for, i work in the kitchen, before you open your stupid 14 year old mouth why dont you get your facts straight. My job allows me to pay for the **** i need and the **** i want, so i dont have to beg my mommy for money or rides or whatever else you beg for.
Unlike you im actually responisble i took care of myself since i was 11 years old, unlike you i dont need approval of others, and once again unlike you i dont lack inteligence. How are you smarter then me? for gods sake most of your post are simple answers that require no more then a simple search, and you claim to be smarter then i am? please, you're as retarded as they come. **** you couldnt even jack up your car right, you reatard.
And for my last point, please tell your mom that next time i would advice her that she should swallow so she doesn't have any more offsprings like you, people like you disgrace this lovely planet that we live on.

I couldnt jack my car up right??? My car was jacked up and the jack point crumbled. If you truely took care of your self since you were 11 why did you say your momy paid big bucks to get you into america?? :scratch: Im not so dumb after all huh? Dude I could go out today and get another car. i could prolly buy a gay ass 93-97 ta with in a month Im rolling in dough and thats not even my moms money. and DONT YOU EVER TALK ABOUT MY MOM LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!! :evil:

jola 08-04-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
America is the best country in the world and if you think differently GET THE **** OUT!!!

end of rant

How un-American. :(

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
I couldnt jack my car up right??? My car was jacked up and the jack point crumbled. If you truely took care of your self since you were 11 why did you say your momy paid big bucks to get you into america?? :scratch: Im not so dumb after all huh? Dude I could go out today and get another car. i could prolly buy a gay ass 93-97 ta with in a month Im rolling in dough and thats not even my moms money. and DONT YOU EVER TALK ABOUT MY MOM LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!! :evil:

if the jack point "crumbled" I would get rid of that rotted POS bucket of bolts within 24 hrs.

You don't pay gas, insurance, dont have any other bills, all you have to budget is bubble gum and comic books, so STFU already

Tsar 08-04-2006 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
I couldnt jack my car up right??? My car was jacked up and the jack point crumbled. If you truely took care of your self since you were 11 why did you say your momy paid big bucks to get you into america?? :scratch: Im not so dumb after all huh? Dude I could go out today and get another car. i could prolly buy a gay ass 93-97 ta with in a month Im rolling in dough and thats not even my moms money. and DONT YOU EVER TALK ABOUT MY MOM LIKE THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!! :evil:

um... my mother moved to america when i was 11 you retard, over a course of several years she tryed to get me here. The process takes a long ass time but you wouldnt know that. Over that time i lived in Russia by myself. Do you understand now or do i have to further dumb it down for you?

No you cant buy another car, **** you dont even OWN the car you curently have, so dont even try. YOU DONT OWN ANYTHING. and rolling in dough? BWHAHAH at 7.50 an hour and even 60 hours a week thats only 450 buckas a week. and we all know your lazy fatass doesnt work that much.

Yes you jacked up your car and it fell back down, my point exactly. If it was secured correctly nothing would've happened, try again.

and what are you gonna to me if i dont stop? you gonna have your mom beat me up?

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 02:11 PM

btw a "gay ass 93-97 ta" looks better and runs better and is faster than your car will ever be

jola 08-04-2006 02:12 PM

Eh, he's 14. Takes more then 1 to argue.

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 02:13 PM

obviously he does not have enough real-life social interaction to obtain any common sense, we're just helping him otu a little.

Tsar 08-04-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
obviously he does not have enough real-life social interaction to obtain any common sense, we're just helping him otu a little.

:werd:

johnjzjz 08-04-2006 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84
**** all of them!!

what the ****!! how could countries be so stupid? especially india. There are more indians working at taco bell and burgerking ****ing are orders up then in india!!


I stand behind america 100% and will do what ever it takes to defind this great nation!!

America is the best country in the world and if you think differently GET THE **** OUT!!!

end of rant


well said young feller -- you will find as you go along in life people who for their own reasons disagree with you on a topic; who are for the most part are themselves left of center, will resort to name calling and personal attacks its like ( drive buy mouth ) they don't have an answer so they spew clichés , or naive rhetoric - its also known as absence of malice when they approach being down right communists --- they really do think they know better, but have no problem letting you get the brunt of a personal attacks --- don't let it affect you in any way, stand on your ideals and don't let it bother you speak your mind and the truth will always win over -- don't jump into the name calling pit its beneath you jz

jola 08-04-2006 03:09 PM

There is a difference between standing up for what you believe and living closed-minded. I stand up for what I believe, but I do not disregard what other people say either, if I feel it has merit.

Keeping some personal attacks out would be nice though. Ridicule gets pretty boring.

johnjzjz 08-04-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jola
There is a difference between standing up for what you believe and living closed-minded. I stand up for what I believe, but I do not disregard what other people say either, if I feel it has merit.

Keeping some personal attacks out would be nice though. Ridicule gets pretty boring.



any one can name call thats a cop out to the topic at hand especialy a keyboard cowboy, and you cant be on the fence all the time ( but I do not disregard what other people say either, if I feel it has merit.) if you dont take a stand then you are the one who is run over buy the knowms WHO DO THINK THEY KNOW BETTER jz

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
well said young feller -- you will find as you go along in life people who for their own reasons disagree with you on a topic; who are for the most part are themselves left of center, will resort to name calling and personal attacks its like ( drive buy mouth ) they don't have an answer so they spew clichés , or naive rhetoric - its also known as absence of malice when they approach being down right communists --- they really do think they know better, but have no problem letting you get the brunt of a personal attacks --- don't let it affect you in any way, stand on your ideals and don't let it bother you speak your mind and the truth will always win over -- don't jump into the name calling pit its beneath you jz

so you are telling a 14 year old "**** you all, america is infallible, internment camps and guantanamo bay are A-OK" is a fine mentality for life?

Savage_Messiah 08-04-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
well said young feller -- you will find as you go along in life people who for their own reasons disagree with you on a topic; who are for the most part are themselves left of center, will resort to name calling and personal attacks its like ( drive buy mouth ) they don't have an answer so they spew clichés , or naive rhetoric - its also known as absence of malice when they approach being down right communists --- they really do think they know better, but have no problem letting you get the brunt of a personal attacks --- don't let it affect you in any way, stand on your ideals and don't let it bother you speak your mind and the truth will always win over -- don't jump into the name calling pit its beneath you jz

so you are telling a 14 year old "**** you all, america is infallible, internment camps and guantanamo bay are A-OK" is a fine mentality for life?

If so, then not too much seperates you and muslim extremists aside from being on different sides on the line

Ian 08-05-2006 03:08 AM

matt, you have no idea what you're getting into by joining this debate. no one cares what you can buy or what you've read on this forum or other places. What certainpeople go through is what makes them credible. that alone is the reason I value tsar's and john jz's opinions. you are 14, you haven't even been through high school yet. your opinion in this matter is worth next to nothing, sorry. you're also wrong for believing that everything this country does is correct. we do a lot of shady things, just like every other country. the only difference is that we're the "big kid on the block" so no one points it out.

I'm also sorry to say that if this thread doesn't shape up quick, its gonna have to get locked. no more personal attacks. please keep this middle east vs. west related. you've been warned :)

Frosty 08-05-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jola
How un-American. :(

:werd::werd::werd:

What do you expect from a 14 yeard old that doesn't have a clue though.

Frosty 08-05-2006 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
well said young feller -- you will find as you go along in life people who for their own reasons disagree with you on a topic; who are for the most part are themselves left of center, will resort to name calling and personal attacks its like ( drive buy mouth ) they don't have an answer so they spew clichés , or naive rhetoric - its also known as absence of malice when they approach being down right communists --- they really do think they know better, but have no problem letting you get the brunt of a personal attacks --- don't let it affect you in any way, stand on your ideals and don't let it bother you speak your mind and the truth will always win over -- don't jump into the name calling pit its beneath you jz

Wow, so you're basically saying it's ok to support this country and it's actions so blindly that the mentality of us doing no wrong is ok? Holy ****. I support this country but Jesus Christ, we're not perfect. No one in thread is saying this country sucks or we should revolt and create anarchy. Some people are just questioning the government's actions and motives. Should that not be allowed? Should that be outlawed? Should people who think different than our government be thrown in jail for treason? If that's what you think who is the commie? :rofl:

I'm not trying to pick on you sir, I respect your love for this country, I share that same love. A lot of my family are in the military and have fought in the wars throughout the last few decades so I understand your deep rooted love you show right now. However, it seems that if anyone speaks out against something suddenly they're labeled as a commie or a ultra left liberal. Guess what? I'm a pretty conservative Republican but I think Bush and most of his people are ****ing morons(though still glad Kerry never got in lol). Anyway, my point is that just because you love this country and what it stands for doesn't mean you can't ask questions. As annoying as some of the questions askers are(not refering to this thread really) they keep us grounded, they keep us thinking...otherwise we'd be mindless sheep led around by the government(though that's starting to happen already)

johnjzjz 08-05-2006 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty
Wow, so you're basically saying it's ok to support this country and it's actions so blindly that the mentality of us doing no wrong is ok? Holy ****. I support this country but Jesus Christ, we're not perfect. No one in thread is saying this country sucks or we should revolt and create anarchy. Some people are just questioning the government's actions and motives. Should that not be allowed? Should that be outlawed? Should people who think different than our government be thrown in jail for treason? If that's what you think who is the commie? :rofl:

I'm not trying to pick on you sir, I respect your love for this country, I share that same love. A lot of my family are in the military and have fought in the wars throughout the last few decades so I understand your deep rooted love you show right now. However, it seems that if anyone speaks out against something suddenly they're labeled as a commie or a ultra left liberal. Guess what? I'm a pretty conservative Republican but I think Bush and most of his people are ****ing morons(though still glad Kerry never got in lol). Anyway, my point is that just because you love this country and what it stands for doesn't mean you can't ask questions. As annoying as some of the questions askers are(not referring to this thread really) they keep us grounded, they keep us thinking...otherwise we'd be mindless sheep led around by the government(though that's starting to happen already)




Some how my point has been taken incorrectly -- i have seen first hand what our government is capable of, agent orange got me 5 years ago was a year on kemo but the VA doctor i had ( your going to love this ) was DR Anwar Feraka from Iraq he saved my life --- anyway to lock this would be in poor taste people need a vent --- we all see things <-------------> hahahaha i as most Americans have been brought up to dis trust leadership of all kinds, and our government is in a bubble they only see what they let in --- that they in turn believe to be true , i guess you and i would do the same thing ????????????? so if you agree with that and i don't know if you do, this is wheir we might differ in the how to do it --- i as you and i have no idea about what is true about the war and what is not i do believe the pressure from the scum on the left in our country will now send marines to jail for life for something no one knows to be true or not --- train a 17 18 19 20 year old to kill in a blink of an eye have him see his brothers killed in front of his eyes --- and than second guess what went down on at what most could understand as the front ( please note 100,000 of the Iraq so called friendlies demonstrated for the hes-bola killers just the other day in Baghdad against America ) same thing in Vietnam their were no friendlies that was a ruse the same guy who smiled at you in the afternoon was sending rockets in to the fire base at night --- so now that the Israels are invading another country to stem attacks on themselves we just happen to be in the neighborhood is it a coincidence you tell me --- ( or as some believe they did this to drag us into their fight ) in war no one is safe no place is safe and the people have no place to go if they try they are killed and we are at war but Americans for the most part feel as though they will never see this in the US this kind of war well we did ( 911 was a road side bomb so to speak ) and just like the Israels went after the easy target first ( FIRST ) Iran is another story the draft will come into play if they cant through iraq show the arabs we are willing to do what ever, to not be screwded with, ( the way it is as i see it )--( show me how i dont get it if you have a diiff opinion ) and i am coming from no political side just as i see it but make this very clear the left in the US is not looking out for america the way and what they report and you know what i mean just a quick note just like the marines in iraq the marines in cuba watching the garbage who would kill you in a flash they the marines are true to the corp they believe and almost to the man will die for our country sure their are those who turn their back and run but as i live and the marines i knew than and now can not believe the liberals who went after them in the press as if they all were in on what went down ( give the devel its dew ) she the girl did end up pregant and i have done some wild **** to get a little hahahahahhahahahahaahahhaha---- you ---- jz


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