the scoop is bigger? maybe its more potent too. i gotta try that stuff after i get off of ephedrine

IDK, I did one scoop and eh, I will try two scoops next time.

im assuming you have to let your body work its way into it and adapt. keep me updated on how that black powder goes i may try it as my next supplement

Yea, and I weigh about 205 so I would assume the one scoop is just a general starting point for all body weights... it says no more than 3 scoops in a 24 hour period.

I do two scoops a day.

what flavor did you get?

Blue raspberry. I may lift again tmmr for ****s and giggles.

is black powder a pre workout supplement?

that **** can kill you

yeah ephedrine isnt the greatest thing to take, check your pulse when your on it and just sitting still

I dunno?

I thought it was in the same grouping as NO, SP etc

yeah ive heard the stories...its a thermogenic drug...people would use it and go running hard in 90 degree weather..i know what you can and cant do on it. my cycle is almost up.

thats what i thought too

it is
take it 0-30 min before workout.

Most of this **** will kill you. Just a question of how fast.

I prob asked this before, but not sure of it, I do not need to match NO supps with stacker products right?

FYI, why you always should pay for quality:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm171458.htm

Yuck.

MRI = good?

Blood and urine tests = good.

Permanent liver, kindey, and cardiovascular damage = bad

So should I get tests?

bill out of curiosity which supplements do you take? i drink about one protein shake a day..

Whey and a vitamin, Creatine every other month, joint supp as needed.

SNM- If you haven't, get a blood test at the very least. Make sure they test for ALT/AST liver enzymes.

Ok, I will run that past the rents and see what they think.

How often in general would you recommend getting tested?

so what companies should we watch out for then..............

Iam kinda lost here, but what do they have to do with the FDA investagation?????????

Do a search on FDA.gov on a company before you buy their stuff and see if there's anything shady about them. Most of the time you won't find anything.

Example:

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm152152.htm

EDIT- SNM was not reffering to that post. He was referring to one above it. I posted the FDA link here in case anyone happened to take any of those companies products.

SNM: You just want to make sure that you aren't really stressing your organs too much. Most supplements (if not all) are not tested that much for safety and/or haven't been around long enough for long-term effects to start showing up. ALT and AST are the liver enzymes that get elevated if your liver is under stress.

Ok, you have me worried now Bill... lol

I will talk with my mom at lunch today and see if I can go in soon for some bloodwork.