o yeah now I remember, and with the first few days of the war, i remember hearing that they used some illeagle missel or some****.

:lol: a mig squadrum? are u talking pre-gulf 1 war? cuz saddam had a 3 plane airforce of MIG-21s, do you know how out dated those are. it was introduced by the soviets in 1959(!!!) for gods sakes. It has almost no nav system on board and no computers, its a "pilots plane" in todays world it would get shot out of the sky faster then i can take a dump.

WMDs? :lol: other countries have them too, is US gonna attack them? nope. Best example is North Korea, they have NUKES (a real wmd) and they black mail you for stuff they want/need and you give it to them so they can "stop" their program. and when we talk about wmds i hope you dont mean that ****** mustard gas they had, cuz that's just pathetic - ak47 killed more people in its history.



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and we still use

f-16 introduced in 79
b-52h introduced in 1955
f-15 introduced in 1972 (to **** with migs)

to rival mig-21 US produced f-4 phantom, and not any of those planes. f-4 is not in service anymore. Further more your planes have been modified and i bet they're far from what they used to be in the 70s. Also the fact that you have 100's of them + superior training vs what? 3 mig force? f-22 will take them out faster then they know its there. I doubt Saddam has done anything to their planes due to the bans placed on any kinda dual tech entering iraq after gulf1. And the only countries that still use mig21s as their defense are pretty much 3rd world and are not a real threat to the U.S.

ohh one other thing. mig 21 was placed IN SERVICE in 1959. all those aircraft are much younger. F-15 might have been introduced in 1972 but it was put in service 17 years later in 1989! are you trying to compare 1959 technology to 1989?

i can look up other aircraft if you want me too, but im more then sure they were created to fight other planes then mig21's, as i already said thats what f-4 were all about.


iwas bored...

this are the countries that use mig21s currently. How many of them do you consider threats (besides almighty n. korea)? hell so you even know where they're located? :rofl:
Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Bulgaria, Cambodia (grounded),Croatia, Cuba (most grounded), Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Iran, Laos (grounded), Libya (most grounded), Madagascar (grounded), Mongolia (grounded), Mozambique, Myanmar, Nigeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Romania, Serbia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Vietnam, Yemen, Zimbabwe

Eastern Europe, Middle East, Asia, Africa, (plus Cuba)

if that was your attempt to tell me where the countries are located. thats a poor job. i meant if i gave u a map of the world can you point to it? and this is not what its all about... but nice try i guess, as they teach in US high school trying is for winners :lol:

i wasn't about to go into an indepth description of where each country is located...

i dont think tsar was really asking anyone to tell him where the countires were located...it was a retorical question, lol.

edit: btw that was my 5,500th post... and see, i have no need to make a whole thread about it like brando :-D

ding ding ding, this mad gets a cookie! :lol: the reason i included that in there is because majority of people in US dont even know where vietnam is and you people had a war there. but lets continue with our previous disscussion. i dont wanna give out geography lessons.