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qwikz28 04-13-2007 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slugger27nj (Post 333290)
I don't have anything nice to say about corzio, so I'll leave those comments out. I will say it's kind of nice to have Codey back at the top. He's no dreamboat either, but at least he's the lesser of 2 evils.

i'm interested to know why you think corzine is so bad? i'm writing a paper on corzine right now and he doesn't seem like such a bad guy. his budget for Fiscal 2008 is pretty damn promising

slugger27nj 04-14-2007 08:32 AM

Where do I start? First of all he's a liar. He went back on virtually every campaign promise he made.

Then there was the budget fiasco last July when the state shut down. The state wasn't allowed to legally operate without a budget in place according the state constitution. He shot down every budget proposal the legistators came up with that didn't include his demands for concessions for state union workers and a $.01 sales tax increase. The entire time the state was shut down, he was more concerned with getting the union workers back to work and the casinos up and running than he was providing services to everyone else....the services that we pay out the wazoo for. He touted the $.01 as being essential for property tax relief (more on this later), but only 1/2 the $ generated from this went to property taxes. The other $ went to pork funds (aka Christmas Tree funds) which are last minute budget add-ons to private interest groups that lobby the legislators for the loot. Most of these pork funds went to his cronies in the democratic party. This practice is currently being investgated by US Attorney Chris Christie.

Back to property tax relief....the 20% reduction we're all supposed to get is a joke and is nothing more than smoke and mirrors in an attempt to make the elected officials look good in an election year. NOBODY is going to get 20%. Sure, we'll get bigger refund checks, but when you figure in how much taxes will go up this year, inflation and other factors, the actual reduction will be far less than 20%. This proposal is not sustainable long term either, and is likely not to make it past this year.

Then he has the brilliant idea to sell off state assets such as the Turnpike and Parkway to raise $$ to lower the budget gap. This is another short term fix that will initially raise billions, but they're guaranteed to blow through it like everything else. All the yearly revenue that's generated from these would be lost, and the residents/commuters will be the ones ultimately screwed in the end. Whatever private entity that would buy these roads is guaranteed to raise tolls, and there won't be a damn thing we could do about it.

Now to union contract negotiations. You probably know that his ex-GF is Carla Katz....yes the leader of the state's largest workers union. The same union leader that he has contract negotiations with behind closed doors. The same union leader that he paid almost $500,000 for a house for in Hunterdon County (plus the $170,000 gift tax for it). The same union leader who's kids he's paying for to go to private school in PA. The same union leader who's going to Seton Hall Law School on a full scholarship after a certain Gov of ours made a very large financial contribution to the same institution. The same union leader who makes $102,000/yr, but yet had enough $$ to buy a $1.1 million condo with CASH in Hoboken (that just happens to be in the same building where Corzio lives). The same union leader who's now doing $500,000 in renovations to the first house (with non-union labor I should add). Plus, this same union leader is also renting another house so she can be closer to her classes at SH. Now where in the world is someone that makes $102,000/yr getting all this $$$ from. Yep, you guessed it. Yet he sees nothing ethically wrong with this. The legislators came up with a contract proposal that could've saved taxpayers $2 billion, but after he personally took them over, he came up with a savings of $44 million.....quite a difference. On the other hand, these negotiations could be just as unfair to the union rank and file because she could be conceding things that wouldnt' happen under normal circumstances. Neither one of them see anything ethically wrong with any of this. Just recently he finally conceded to have the 2 person ethics panel review the matter, but guess who appointed this ethics panel. So what's gonna come out of it? Uhh....nothing.

I could go on and on, but I'd like to enjoy my weekend now and not get myself anymore aggravated :lol:

BigAls87Z28 04-14-2007 08:40 AM

Slugger...is your Blazer red?

Anyway, can someone explain to me how the eff a car was allowed that close to the car? Hell, I see a cop car speeding down the parkway, no less MULTIPLE state troopers, I am parking my car on the shoulder.

slugger27nj 04-14-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 333668)
Slugger...is your Blazer red?

Haha...no, and it hasn't been running 'til this morning. Since when does Ford make a Blazer anyway? :shrug:

Hey, I would never wish ill-will on the guy and I hope he makes a full recovery. I just don't like him as a leader. Apparently Goldman Sachs didn't either, considering they pushed him out so quickly. Hopefully the same thing happens here.

qwikz28 04-14-2007 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by slugger27nj (Post 333666)
Where do I start? First of all he's a liar. He went back on virtually every campaign promise he made.

Then there was the budget fiasco last July when the state shut down. The state wasn't allowed to legally operate without a budget in place according the state constitution. He shot down every budget proposal the legistators came up with that didn't include his demands for concessions for state union workers and a $.01 sales tax increase. The entire time the state was shut down, he was more concerned with getting the union workers back to work and the casinos up and running than he was providing services to everyone else....the services that we pay out the wazoo for. He touted the $.01 as being essential for property tax relief (more on this later), but only 1/2 the $ generated from this went to property taxes. The other $ went to pork funds (aka Christmas Tree funds) which are last minute budget add-ons to private interest groups that lobby the legislators for the loot. Most of these pork funds went to his cronies in the democratic party. This practice is currently being investgated by US Attorney Chris Christie.

Back to property tax relief....the 20% reduction we're all supposed to get is a joke and is nothing more than smoke and mirrors in an attempt to make the elected officials look good in an election year. NOBODY is going to get 20%. Sure, we'll get bigger refund checks, but when you figure in how much taxes will go up this year, inflation and other factors, the actual reduction will be far less than 20%. This proposal is not sustainable long term either, and is likely not to make it past this year.

Then he has the brilliant idea to sell off state assets such as the Turnpike and Parkway to raise $$ to lower the budget gap. This is another short term fix that will initially raise billions, but they're guaranteed to blow through it like everything else. All the yearly revenue that's generated from these would be lost, and the residents/commuters will be the ones ultimately screwed in the end. Whatever private entity that would buy these roads is guaranteed to raise tolls, and there won't be a damn thing we could do about it.

Now to union contract negotiations. You probably know that his ex-GF is Carla Katz....yes the leader of the state's largest workers union. The same union leader that he has contract negotiations with behind closed doors. The same union leader that he paid almost $500,000 for a house for in Hunterdon County (plus the $170,000 gift tax for it). The same union leader who's kids he's paying for to go to private school in PA. The same union leader who's going to Seton Hall Law School on a full scholarship after a certain Gov of ours made a very large financial contribution to the same institution. The same union leader who makes $102,000/yr, but yet had enough $$ to buy a $1.1 million condo with CASH in Hoboken (that just happens to be in the same building where Corzio lives). The same union leader who's now doing $500,000 in renovations to the first house (with non-union labor I should add). Plus, this same union leader is also renting another house so she can be closer to her classes at SH. Now where in the world is someone that makes $102,000/yr getting all this $$$ from. Yep, you guessed it. Yet he sees nothing ethically wrong with this. The legislators came up with a contract proposal that could've saved taxpayers $2 billion, but after he personally took them over, he came up with a savings of $44 million.....quite a difference. On the other hand, these negotiations could be just as unfair to the union rank and file because she could be conceding things that wouldnt' happen under normal circumstances. Neither one of them see anything ethically wrong with any of this. Just recently he finally conceded to have the 2 person ethics panel review the matter, but guess who appointed this ethics panel. So what's gonna come out of it? Uhh....nothing.

I could go on and on, but I'd like to enjoy my weekend now and not get myself anymore aggravated :lol:

wow...i wish i could quote you for my paper. lol that Katz thing is supposedly being investigated now. heres some info i found this morning on Corzine. this guy hates him as much as you do (and he's egyptian :))
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...703220420/1030

BigAls87Z28 04-14-2007 06:29 PM

Jake, I clicked on the link, but I dont have the correct software for my computer to understand hyrogliphics?

qwikz28 04-14-2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 333773)
Jake, I clicked on the link, but I dont have the correct software for my computer to understand hyrogliphics?

huh, apparently i do :shrug:

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 04-15-2007 11:53 AM

yeah Its amazing how they can enforce the law but yet they doint follow it. Well I guess he's paying now for not wearing his seat belt. They found the guy who "caused" the accident. He didnt even know what happened- I think they said he was 20. I feel bad for him- It wasnt a hit and run- it was just an accident. -they said that he wasn't getting charged. The troopers that were driven the SUV didn't even see the kid in the red truck that "caused" the accident. If the governer was wearing his seat belt then he wouldnt be in the condition that he's in now...it's his own damn fault. Don't preach it if your not going to follow it!

Teds89IROC 04-15-2007 11:59 AM

They said the guy that was driving the pickup was a "challenged driver", meaning he's mentally challenged and he works in AC in one of the casinos. He didn't even know of the accident and no charges are being brought against him.

Savage_Messiah 04-15-2007 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Teds89IROC (Post 334011)
They said the guy that was driving the pickup was a "challenged driver", meaning he's mentally challenged and he works in AC in one of the casinos. He didn't even know of the accident and no charges are being brought against him.

he shouldn't even have a license then IMO

qwikz28 04-15-2007 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1_Hot_SOM_WS6 (Post 334010)
yeah Its amazing how they can enforce the law but yet they doint follow it. Well I guess he's paying now for not wearing his seat belt. They found the guy who "caused" the accident. He didnt even know what happened- I think they said he was 20. I feel bad for him- It wasnt a hit and run- it was just an accident. -they said that he wasn't getting charged. The troopers that were driven the SUV didn't even see the kid in the red truck that "caused" the accident. If the governer was wearing his seat belt then he wouldnt be in the condition that he's in now...it's his own damn fault. Don't preach it if your not going to follow it!

there was a government official that spoke out the other day in the media saying that Corzine should be given a seatbelt ticket


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