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GP99GT 04-06-2008 04:47 PM

hell motha****in yes!

Untamed 04-07-2008 08:16 AM

I find it funny when the Rangers and Flyers win against the Devils, they get so happy they seem to forget their overall record. It's like a major accomplishment. Quite flattering when you think about it, to have the Devils as the team to beat.

When the Devils beat the Rangers or Flyers, its just another game in a long string of wins. :)

chemicalstylez 04-07-2008 09:55 PM

The Devils have a new rink....and the ice there is good from what I heard. Florida and Tampa Bay have the worst ice rink hands down, coming a close 28th is MSG ice(due to the old building).


Playoff wise the Devils/Rangers should be a good one though.

As for instaters not liking the Devils, its true. Theres really no point for them to be here. They should be moved to Canada honestly, to be 26th in attendence and win cups is an embarassment for the league. Even Tampa Bay gave the Lightning a parade with a huge turnout, NJ can barely fill a parking lot for a "Cup Party". South Jersey = Flyers, north jersey = Rangers, Devils = lost inbetween.

Knipps 04-07-2008 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemicalstylez (Post 435709)
The Devils have a new rink....and the ice there is good from what I heard. Florida and Tampa Bay have the worst ice rink hands down, coming a close 28th is MSG ice(due to the old building).


Playoff wise the Devils/Rangers should be a good one though.

As for instaters not liking the Devils, its true. Theres really no point for them to be here. They should be moved to Canada honestly, to be 26th in attendence and win cups is an embarassment for the league. Even Tampa Bay gave the Lightning a parada with a huge turnout, NJ can barely fill a parking lot.

28th?!?
and it's mainly from being taken apart/put back together for basketball that takes its toll on the ice from what i've heard

35thls1ss19 04-07-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemicalstylez (Post 435709)
The Devils have a new rink....and the ice there is good from what I heard. Florida and Tampa Bay have the worst ice rink hands down, coming a close 28th is MSG ice(due to the old building).


Playoff wise the Devils/Rangers should be a good one though.

As for instaters not liking the Devils, its true. Theres really no point for them to be here. They should be moved to Canada honestly, to be 26th in attendence and win cups is an embarassment for the league. Even Tampa Bay gave the Lightning a parade with a huge turnout, NJ can barely fill a parking lot for a "Cup Party". South Jersey = Flyers, north jersey = Rangers, Devils = lost inbetween.

lol devils are the only good team wll only team jersey has. typical ranger or flyer fan says we should get rid of them. jealous? they have won more cups in teh last five years then the rangers have seen playoffs. We will take them out again like the past and the flyers? well after a year like last year i cant believe they played hockey as good as they did this year no matter still have fans. The only reason devils do not sell out and do not have so many fans is cause there a newer team... and they keep playing the way they do the newer generation will have no players or rangers fans. well see what happens in teh playoffs :) Go devs!

Untamed 04-08-2008 09:36 AM

I think the Devils have plenty of fans. They just elect not to pay the crazy cost of going to a game. Everywhere I go I see Devils hats, jackets, bumper stickers, etc. But living in this state makes it real hard to afford anything other than normal bills. All you kids living at home, with few responsibilities and expenses, won't understand that until you're forced to pay for everything you need.

I can only imagine the frustration the Devil's staff feels at finding a way to ballance their own expenses (salaries) with the attendance level at the arena. As long as they keep winning, there will be fans wearing the merchandise. If they slide back to levels like Tampa, then the fan base will be gone and the team won't be able to afford playing in NJ. Kind of a catch 22 with them.

Having said all that, I'll be rooting for the Devils... from the comfort of my own basement. :P

35thls1ss19 04-08-2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untamed (Post 435817)
I think the Devils have plenty of fans. They just elect not to pay the crazy cost of going to a game. Everywhere I go I see Devils hats, jackets, bumper stickers, etc. But living in this state makes it real hard to afford anything other than normal bills. All you kids living at home, with few responsibilities and expenses, won't understand that until you're forced to pay for everything you need.

I can only imagine the frustration the Devil's staff feels at finding a way to ballance their own expenses (salaries) with the attendance level at the arena. As long as they keep winning, there will be fans wearing the merchandise. If they slide back to levels like Tampa, then the fan base will be gone and the team won't be able to afford playing in NJ. Kind of a catch 22 with them.

Having said all that, I'll be rooting for the Devils... from the comfort of my own basement. :P

very well put :) i agree! And i will be doing the same... might attend a game or 2.

GP99GT 04-08-2008 04:50 PM

i went to 3 games this year, and bought food at each of them...i feel i have made my donation

chemicalstylez 04-09-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19 (Post 435729)
lol devils are the only good team wll only team jersey has. typical ranger or flyer fan says we should get rid of them. jealous? they have won more cups in teh last five years then the rangers have seen playoffs. We will take them out again like the past and the flyers? well after a year like last year i cant believe they played hockey as good as they did this year no matter still have fans. The only reason devils do not sell out and do not have so many fans is cause there a newer team... and they keep playing the way they do the newer generation will have no players or rangers fans. well see what happens in teh playoffs :) Go devs!

Theres no jealousy, its basic economics. A team that ranks 26th in attendence gets a new rink. 65% of it was funded with NJ TAX PAYERS MONEY. How that happend is beyond me, but with Corzine running the show it didn't surprise me. I never said the Devils weren't good, they just have no fan base outside of a 30 mile area. If they were moved to Winnipeg, Hartford, Quebec, or Vegas the team would flourish and sell out on a constant basis.

chemicalstylez 04-09-2008 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Untamed (Post 435817)
I think the Devils have plenty of fans. They just elect not to pay the crazy cost of going to a game. Everywhere I go I see Devils hats, jackets, bumper stickers, etc. But living in this state makes it real hard to afford anything other than normal bills. All you kids living at home, with few responsibilities and expenses, won't understand that until you're forced to pay for everything you need.

I can only imagine the frustration the Devil's staff feels at finding a way to ballance their own expenses (salaries) with the attendance level at the arena. As long as they keep winning, there will be fans wearing the merchandise. If they slide back to levels like Tampa, then the fan base will be gone and the team won't be able to afford playing in NJ. Kind of a catch 22 with them.

Having said all that, I'll be rooting for the Devils... from the comfort of my own basement. :P

Maybe. But the Isles don't have a problem selling tickets and they suck. And NY is just as expensive as NJ. The Rangers have a deep history, so its obvious they sell out every game. The Devils are indeed a good team, they just don't have a good backing and they never will. Not being in the middle of the Rangers/Flyers market. You should buy the Hockey News sometimes, you would see where I am coming from. There was a huge article in it a few months back saying the Devils would be well better off out of NJ. And it had way more pros than cons.

I don't hate the Devils either surprisingly(you guys have to play game with "sid rules too"; as I am a Flyers fan. All my hate is aimed at Pittsburgh and Toronto :)

Knipps 04-09-2008 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemicalstylez (Post 436229)
Theres no jealousy, its basic economics. A team that ranks 26th in attendence gets a new rink. 65% of it was funded with NJ TAX PAYERS MONEY. How that happend is beyond me, but with Corzine running the show it didn't surprise me. I never said the Devils weren't good, they just have no fan base outside of a 30 mile area. If they were moved to Winnipeg, Hartford, Quebec, or Vegas the team would flourish and sell out on a constant basis.

:bs:

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.nhi.org/online/issues/135/arena.html
In early May the state’s Local Finance Board and the Newark City Council approved the city’s financing plan, in which the Newark Housing Authority will sell bonds to raise about $220 million. According to the Star-Ledger, the city plans to spend $210 million from that sale on the arena – about 30 percent of the city’s annual budget. (The Devils will pay the balance of $100 million.) The remaining $10 million from the bond sale would be spent on neighborhood and capital improvement projects. The city will pay off the bonds with the annual lease payments of $12.5 million received from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PA) for the right to operate Newark’s marine terminal.

what taxpayer money?

Frosty 04-09-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35thls1ss19 (Post 435729)
lol devils are the only good team wll only team jersey has. typical ranger or flyer fan says we should get rid of them. jealous? they have won more cups in teh last five years then the rangers have seen playoffs. We will take them out again like the past and the flyers? well after a year like last year i cant believe they played hockey as good as they did this year no matter still have fans. The only reason devils do not sell out and do not have so many fans is cause there a newer team... and they keep playing the way they do the newer generation will have no players or rangers fans. well see what happens in teh playoffs :) Go devs!

Um, they've been in NJ for over a quarter of a century :lol: It's not a typical Flyers fan comment from Chemical, NJ's market BLOWS. No one said the Devils aren't a good team, we all know they are...it's their market and fan base that sucks goat nuts.

chemicalstylez 04-09-2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 436242)
:bs:



what taxpayer money?


I guess the article i read was wrong. *shrug*. But the no market is true. Look at the numbers.

2003 = 23rd
2004 = 24th
2005 = no season
2006 = 26th
2007 = 26th
2008 = 23rd

So the new arena bumped it, but its still in the bottom of the league.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/attendance?year=2008

WayFast84 04-09-2008 06:21 PM

wow freakin awesome game so far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dont care who wins the game, series, or cup, but DAMN!!!!!!!!! I want to see great games! and this is freakin awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frosty 04-09-2008 06:47 PM

I'm actually rooting for NJ.

God I feel dirty for saying that.

alamantia 04-09-2008 08:05 PM

Devils suck

Untamed 04-09-2008 09:58 PM

Wrong thread for this but... congrats Rangers.

Looking forward to Friday.

alamantia 04-11-2008 08:26 PM

Maaaaarttttyyyy... in your own building


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