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V 08-22-2008 10:09 PM

you may have the timing set to cyl. #1 at TDC but on the exhaust stroke, not the compression stroke. meaning dizzy is 180* out. very good possibility.

Jersyboyy 08-22-2008 10:35 PM

Ill give it a shot tom when the battery finally charges back up. No feeler gauge either.
Any one wanna stop by and take a look at this thing with me? I have used up everything i have left in my pocket but maybe i can give you some parts or something. Id appreicate it.

79CamaroDiva 08-22-2008 10:39 PM

you cannot adjust valves without feeler guages and expect everything to stay together long.

bubba428 08-22-2008 10:42 PM

sure you can....It takes a while to get 100% and if you move em too much the nuts get worn out(I hit mine with a sledge when that happens, hold the jokes).

79CamaroDiva 08-22-2008 10:45 PM

or you can buy a set for 7.95 from snap on and do it right the first time

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

BonzoHansen 08-22-2008 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 479271)
you cannot adjust valves without feeler guages and expect everything to stay together long.

Why, is he using solid lifters?

Jersyboyy 08-22-2008 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 479277)
Why, is he using solid lifters?

Not using solid lifters? More like hydraulic...

BonzoHansen 08-23-2008 07:56 AM

I've never used a feeler gauge adjusting valves w/hyd lifters...but I'll wait to hear from the more knowledgible folks.

Featherburner 08-23-2008 09:51 AM

0 lash plus 1/4 to 1/2 turn more = no need for feeler gauges.

JL8Jeff 08-23-2008 10:14 AM

Sounds like dizzy is 180 out like mentioned. We all learn the hard way with this stuff, that's what makes it so much fun and why the old people offer advice. :lol:

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Jersyboyy 08-23-2008 03:36 PM

Redid the timing and firing order 2 times just to double check it, cranked it over and shes screaming!! Im so happy, now I only let it run for less than 30 seconds for a few reason. Neighbors are having guest over and I want to go over all the rockers again to get them dialed in close to right before I let it run for break in. THANK YOU GUYS A TON!!!

LTb1ow 08-23-2008 03:44 PM

Woot! and wtf is a "feeler" gauge? Your engine doesn't have points does it?

sweetbmxrider 08-23-2008 03:46 PM

:w00t::cheers:

LTb1ow 08-23-2008 03:49 PM

So you gonna bring it to the meet tonight?

ZeroCool8891 08-23-2008 06:50 PM

FINLY Congrats man.

Jersyboyy 08-23-2008 07:13 PM

What meet tonight? And i drove it down the street on idle if i tap the throttle it bogs, the tranny kickdown cable isnt setup either(donno how to do that) and i need to the put the ypipe on and get it welded as well as a few other things. Any meets next week IM TOTALLY DOWN!!

Im so excited!! No more whie puffy smoke out the tail pipes car ran for 40 minutes around 2k rpms and im changing the oil now again. Its just finally coming along!!! WOOT

JL8Jeff 08-23-2008 07:23 PM

Nice! Nothing like getting it running again. Now you need to figure the carb out before you run around and run too lean and overheat again. Get that y-pipe done right as well with no leaks.

Jersyboyy 08-23-2008 07:44 PM

yup yup no lean conditions this time i got a holley 750 on it this time!! Alot more fuel than my old edelbrock 600.

Jersyboyy 08-23-2008 08:08 PM

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Jersyboyy 08-24-2008 03:46 AM

Iv been reading alot tonight about wiped cam lobes. I must have spent betwen 2 days, 30 minutes just cranking the motor over trying to start it. Now that iv finally got it started, how would I know if I wiped a loe on my new cam? What would it sound like or do? Their was alot of time their it was cranking and not firing...def couldnt have any oil splash on the cam to lubricate it. Im hoping that the worst is not true in this case.

BonzoHansen 08-24-2008 07:27 AM

Congrats. At this point don't worry about the cam. If there is an issue it will tell you eventually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersyboyy (Post 479500)
...the tranny kickdown cable isnt setup either(donno how to do that) ...

What kind of trans? If that is a TV cable (700R4), get it adjusted soon or your trans will suffer.

crainholio 08-24-2008 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersyboyy (Post 479641)
Iv been reading alot tonight about wiped cam lobes. I must have spent betwen 2 days, 30 minutes just cranking the motor over trying to start it. Now that iv finally got it started, how would I know if I wiped a loe on my new cam? What would it sound like or do? Their was alot of time their it was cranking and not firing...def couldnt have any oil splash on the cam to lubricate it. Im hoping that the worst is not true in this case.

Congrats on getting it running!

If you lubed the cam before installing it you got no worries about wiped lobes. If you put it in dry, prepare for another lesson.

LTb1ow 08-24-2008 09:08 AM

If you installed the cam bearings the right way and lubed it before you stuck the cam in, you should have no problem.

Jersyboyy 08-24-2008 12:22 PM

O i lubed the hell out of the cam and lifter bottoms before putting it in. Used rottella t with a zinc additive as well.
As for the tv cable im not sure if I need an additional bracket for the holley 3310 carb or not. Who can adjust that properlly for me, any local trans shop?

Jersyboyy 08-24-2008 12:27 PM

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