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BonzoHansen 09-16-2008 08:34 PM

When do the tires rub, full turn (like parking)?

BigAls87Z28 09-17-2008 07:09 AM

Sounds like you might possibly have an offset problem. Thoes arent IROC's onthere, they look like wheels off an S10 or something.
225/60-16 shouldnt rub at all, even being bigger. IMO, you have a wheel problem.

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 488132)
When do the tires rub, full turn (like parking)?

They will rub whenever I turn the wheel enough to one side, even when taking sharp corners.

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 488240)
Sounds like you might possibly have an offset problem. Thoes arent IROC's onthere, they look like wheels off an S10 or something.
225/60-16 shouldnt rub at all, even being bigger. IMO, you have a wheel problem.

Yeah, I don't like the rims that are on there, and plan to get new ones. I was just hoping that in the mean time I could remedy the problem by either getting 2 used tires or putting spacers up front.

BonzoHansen 09-17-2008 08:04 AM

Good call Al, I thought they were camaro wheels.

PolarBear 09-17-2008 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 487889)
For the record, most 3rd gens with 16" rims had rubbing issues.

My stock size 245/50-16s on my 88 on factory (and correct fr/rear offsets in the correct place) crosslace wheels would rub on the plastic fender liner. Rubs with the 275/40-17 firehawk wheels too.

Is it rubbing on the plastic fender liner, or is it on steel somewhere?

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 488298)
My stock size 245/50-16s on my 88 on factory (and correct fr/rear offsets in the correct place) crosslace wheels would rub on the plastic fender liner. Rubs with the 275/40-17 firehawk wheels too.

Is it rubbing on the plastic fender liner, or is it on steel somewhere?

Both.

PolarBear 09-17-2008 03:13 PM

I wouldnt worry about the plastic lines too much but you have avoided the "where is it rubbing" question several times now. What piece of steel is it rubbing on?

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 488445)
I wouldnt worry about the plastic lines too much but you have avoided the "where is it rubbing" question several times now. What piece of steel is it rubbing on?

I answered that question earlier.. Read some of the last posts. It is hard to describe where it is rubbing. I will have to take pictures of everything.

chrisfrom nj 09-17-2008 04:58 PM

http://cnj.craigslist.org/pts/844735191.html
pick these wheels up

deadtrend1 09-17-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisfrom nj (Post 488526)

how does that help his current rubbing issue?

I always had my 16x8's rub when I turned the wheel to the max one way or another.

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisfrom nj (Post 488526)

I would DEFINITELY pick those up if they were all 18s!

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 06:10 PM

Here are some pictures of where it is rubbing, I think I have a combination of 2 problems. The tires are too tall, and the offset on the wheels is off. So I am taking suggestions on what new wheels and tires to buy.. :nod:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...3/IMGP7385.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...3/IMGP7388.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...IMGP7389-1.jpg

sweetbmxrider 09-17-2008 06:34 PM

wow deff something wrong with your wheels and tires IMO

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 488553)
wow deff something wrong with your wheels and tires IMO

yeah, that's what i said.. :)

BonzoHansen 09-17-2008 07:26 PM

Back to what Al said about offset.. Combine that with a taller tire and that is likey your issue. Maybe you could borrow a set of correct wheels & check

PolarBear 09-17-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 1RARE84 (Post 488550)

Yeah looks like the tire is just too tall. You CAN remove that bracket if it interferes with the driving/handling. It is only a brace that was added in the later years. Some of the other rubbing is common but the one is I think an offset problem

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 488569)
Back to what Al said about offset.. Combine that with a taller tire and that is likey your issue. Maybe you could borrow a set of correct wheels & check

Yeah, that is what I think it is too. I guess I will just have to either get some smaller tires up front for the time being, or just deal with it until I get the new rims and tires.

2RARE84s 09-17-2008 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scooter (Post 488572)
Yeah looks like the tire is just too tall. You CAN remove that bracket if it interferes with the driving/handling. It is only a brace that was added in the later years. Some of the other rubbing is common but the one is I think an offset problem

I might try that too, but I really need new rims and tires anyway.

BigAls87Z28 09-17-2008 10:19 PM

Id pick up a set of IROC's or any sort of 16's for a third gen off ebay or what have you.

CHRIS67 09-18-2008 07:02 AM

That is a serious rub! From the look of the pics I think a spacer would only cause the tire to rub on the outside fender. Maybe someone here can loan you a stock pair of Iroc and see if it is a suspension issue or a wheel issue.

The Fixer 09-18-2008 07:14 AM

Guys, the wheels he's using are roughly 4" backspacing (0" offset). I had a set of those on my old Monte SS. If he uses IROC wheels or any other 3rd-gen 16" front wheel he'll still have the same problem, since they have the same offset. The problem is, his car originally came with 15" wheels and they have a different steering box. He needs a steering box off a car that came equipped with 16's from the factory. They have the internal stops set in a different place so the wheel can't turn in as far. That ends the rubbing issue. :)

2RARE84s 09-18-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TPI Monte SS (Post 488705)
Guys, the wheels he's using are roughly 4" backspacing (0" offset). I had a set of those on my old Monte SS. If he uses IROC wheels or any other 3rd-gen 16" front wheel he'll still have the same problem, since they have the same offset. The problem is, his car originally came with 15" wheels and they have a different steering box. He needs a steering box off a car that came equipped with 16's from the factory. They have the internal stops set in a different place so the wheel can't turn in as far. That ends the rubbing issue. :)

I plan to get 18"s, what should I keep in mind when getting them?

BonzoHansen 09-18-2008 07:59 AM

I thought the 16" wheel cars got stops on the control arms.

2RARE84s 09-18-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 488707)
I thought the 16" wheel cars got stops on the control arms.

This was an original 15" car. The guy I bought the car from put those wheels on it.


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