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Blacdout96 10-17-2008 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 499734)
that was a long post........his air cleaner dosent fit under his stock hood, half the people that posted said the cowl looks out of place, but again, his setup dosent fit under his stock hood

that doesnt mean he should get a 4 inch cowl hood for it. like I said, he should find a hood thats not the norm on eBay, or on Harwoods site. make his own, or find someone that can help him make it.

Mike 10-17-2008 07:55 AM

i believe he settled on a 2.5 and not everyone want something crazy, original, and expensive when the normal alternative will do the job

Blacdout96 10-17-2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bandit88 (Post 499737)
listen here i love my cowl hood....... stop picxking on me :wink::rofl:

Im not picking on oyu, yours actually goes well with your car, i guess cause the GTA front end is more pleasing to the eye then that white car in the pics. But I will say your car put a curse on mine, mines not running, infact i just took the tags off to go return to the DMV later today :(

Blacdout96 10-17-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 499755)
i believe he settled on a 2.5 and not everyone want something crazy, original, and expensive when the normal alternative will do the job

So thats it, you spend all this money on a car, and your gonna go the easy way out when you buy one of the most looked at part of the car? and thats just it, theres no original hoods for 3rd gens, they've all been around for 20+ years. plus, if he's gonna change the front and rear bumpers, why not take that extra step and make the car really unique, dont fall just short of different and original.

Mike 10-17-2008 08:02 AM

because to most people functional matters just a little bit more

Blacdout96 10-17-2008 08:12 AM

But you could make it more functional when building custom. and thats like saying a cold air intake works without putting shrouds around the filter, and without wrapping the pipe ( the pip gets heat sinked, and the filter just sucks in hot air) with a cowl hood, you also need the plate to keep it from breathing in under hood heat, and to allow a smoother flow under the hood. when you see Hemi's, stage 2 olds and pontiacs and such, they have a gasket that seperates the filter from the engine bay heat, and gets more direct cold air. So unless he buys/builds that as well for his car, its not really functioning properly ;)

Mike 10-17-2008 08:45 AM

sooo failing to make one point you change the topic to cold air intakes?

not many people CAN build their own hood, just because you know fiberglass does not mean its a good recommendation to tell every 17 year old kid whose air cleaner wont fit to build a hood... he isnt looking to be all original, hes looking to make his **** work, and buying a hood will be cheaper than buying supplies and teaching yourself how to use them

Blacdout96 10-18-2008 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 499762)
because to most people functional matters just a little bit more

first off I didnt change any topic, i answered this. your saying people sometimes wants function over form, but what im saying is people buy cowl hoods, but arent functioning fully the way they were ment to perform. without something seperating the filter from the engine heat, its not functioning 100% it is ment to, thus creating a custom part or even hood to maximize the elimination of absorbing engine heat will better the performance of the hood. so end of discussion.

and FYI actually unless hes using Carbon fiber, its not that expensive compared to buyind a 300-400 dollar hood. and its not that hard to learn, thus why I said if he cant do certain things, have a friend who knows how to to help.

Mike 10-18-2008 09:48 AM

if he has never done it, and dosent have any friends that have, and dosent have a source for the supplies or the tools to do it, yes it is more expensive.

and i would call it VERY functional in his case since with the stock hood he COULDNT PUT AN AIR CLEANER ON THE CAR

WildBillyT 10-18-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 500066)
first off I didnt change any topic, i answered this. your saying people sometimes wants function over form, but what im saying is people buy cowl hoods, but arent functioning fully the way they were ment to perform. without something seperating the filter from the engine heat, its not functioning 100% it is ment to, thus creating a custom part or even hood to maximize the elimination of absorbing engine heat will better the performance of the hood. so end of discussion.

and FYI actually unless hes using Carbon fiber, its not that expensive compared to buyind a 300-400 dollar hood. and its not that hard to learn, thus why I said if he cant do certain things, have a friend who knows how to to help.

Cold air is not the function in question. He needs to fit a high rise intake manifold under a hood that does not look hideous. That's the primary need. Not how to maximize power. If he wants that he can add it later with a 'turkey pan' or something like that.

And sure, he can try to make his own hood but the chance of success is pretty low (not a direct dig at you WF, plenty of people can't do this). Most people can't even attach a fiberglass scoop to a fiberglass hood and end up using pop rivets.

In this case spending the $200-300 bucks is a good idea, since building his own looks like it would be a whole bucket full of fail.

Blacdout96 10-18-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 500073)
Cold air is not the function in question. He needs to fit a high rise intake manifold under a hood that does not look hideous. That's the primary need. Not how to maximize power. If he wants that he can add it later with a 'turkey pan' or something like that.

And sure, he can try to make his own hood but the chance of success is pretty low (not a direct dig at you WF, plenty of people can't do this). Most people can't even attach a fiberglass scoop to a fiberglass hood and end up using pop rivets.

In this case spending the $200-300 bucks is a good idea, since building his own looks like it would be a whole bucket full of fail.

Ah turkey, pan thats the name I was trying to think of. and :rofl: at the bucket of fail comment.

...im just saying for his car, it would be nice to have something other then the usual for clearance. if he wants, then go get a 2.5 cowl instead of a 4 inch cowl

WildBillyT 10-18-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 500145)
im just saying for his car, it would be nice to have something other then the usual for clearance.

No arguement there. The shame of it is that there really isn't that much offered for a 3rd gen bird like that.

WayFast84 10-18-2008 09:51 PM

There are no other options, Im not going to waste my time building a hood, to be different when the car is just your average firebird... I would love to have a formula hood on the car, with 90+ bumpers and a formula spoiler, but like Mike stated....

I CANT FIT THE PROPER AIR FILTER UNDERNEATH MY HOOD.

and thats with out the nitrous.

bubba428 10-19-2008 05:33 PM

I really liked my Daytona style cowl hood....that wouldn't look to bad on a car with no GFX

WayFast84 10-19-2008 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 500536)
I really liked my Daytona style cowl hood....that wouldn't look to bad on a car with no GFX

Bad is an understatement. FUGLY as hell on my car...

I love the powerbuldge hood. I'm so pissed It wont work with my set up..

V 10-20-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WayFast84 (Post 500571)
Bad is an understatement. FUGLY as hell on my car...

I love the powerbuldge hood. I'm so pissed It wont work with my set up..


how much clearence are you looking for?
if possible, track down and get a FUNCTIONAL puwerbuldge cowl induction hood and run like a 2" high air cleaner with a dropbase, or a base modified to clear fuel lines/linkage. The cowl induction into the top of the air cleaner would give additional air flow lost by the reduced filter height

Frosty 10-21-2008 03:55 PM

2.5''...the 4'' doesn't look right and your car is too slow to warrant the "I have a ton of power" look.

TurboDiverArt 11-03-2008 05:08 AM

If you need the height that that hood provides then I don't think you have too many choices. If it could be shorter and still provide the clearance I'd suggest that.

Art.

bandit88 11-03-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 499756)
Im not picking on oyu, yours actually goes well with your car, i guess cause the GTA front end is more pleasing to the eye then that white car in the pics. But I will say your car put a curse on mine, mines not running, infact i just took the tags off to go return to the DMV later today :(



don't worry you car will be running soon cause....... .the trans is out of the CAVI!!!!!!!
i'm down a vehicle :wink:

wretched73 11-03-2008 07:25 AM

Not a big fan of the cowl induction hood on third gen birds, no matter what size :/

//<86TA>\\ 11-03-2008 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 506090)
Not a big fan of the cowl induction hood on third gen birds, no matter what size :/

:moon:

Im quite fond of mine actually. It follows the fender line and fits the car pretty well. Much better than all those ram airII hoods out there.

//<86TA>\\ 11-03-2008 08:18 PM

this is always an option.....
even looks similar to your car
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...burnout1-1.jpg

TurboDiverArt 11-05-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\ (Post 506479)
this is always an option.....
even looks similar to your car
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...burnout1-1.jpg

I vote to put a hood like the one on my 1992 (in my avatar). Not too sure the inspection guys will like it but what do they know. It only creates a "small" blind-spot of about 3 car lengths.... :wink:

thunder 03-04-2009 09:17 AM

smaller cowl. the ground effects help too


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