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NJ346 04-06-2009 08:01 PM

Time for the boat anchor to land in the ocean....:lol:

On a serious note:

I'm pretty sure GM DID make 2 different systems and you need ASR in order to keep your abs. This is because the ASR system uses 4 sensors where as the non asr uses 3 sensors for wheel speed. So pretty much, you need ASR to have ABS in an ASR equipped car. This is LS1 stuff, but I believe it's the same on the LT1 ASR.

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:04 PM

Yea, I am moving on from that idea of deleting the ASR. The game plan now is to fool the PCM into thinking it still has control of my gas pedal and just get the lights off and ABS back.


So lets try again.... how do I reset the PCM? I took off the battery for a few hours and it still all lit up...

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:05 PM

what year is your car again? I'll see if i can find something for you real quick.

Try this:
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Open hood, see the two fuse panels on the drivers side in the front. With the ignition on pull the two PCM fuses (one in each fuse box). Wait for 3 min., then shut off the ignition and replace the fuses. Start car! It will idle like **************** for about 5 min until the computer relearns it's air to fuel ratio's, good luck!

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:06 PM

1995

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:21 PM

Matt, I know this isn't likely, but put something on the brake peddle and then get to the back of the car and see if the 3rd brake light is on. If it's blown out, it will pop the abs inop light on.

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:22 PM

Yea but this all started AFTER I forgot to plug the ASR motor in and started the car.

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:24 PM

ok, this could very well be your problem since you were rewiring stuff. You could have accidentally removed a ground that just happens to be a ground for both the abs and airbags. http://www.soltan.net/pix/ground.jpg

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:26 PM

LOL nope. Like I said, all I did was unplug the harness for the ASR motor cause I moved it out of the way. I started the car, remembered that I unplugged it, and plugged it back in.

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 571554)
LOL nope. Like I said, all I did was unplug the harness for the ASR motor cause I moved it out of the way. I started the car, remembered that I unplugged it, and plugged it back in.

You cleared the codes right?

sweetbmxrider 04-06-2009 08:28 PM

another who says fix the third :-P

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:29 PM

I can't clear codes, prob go visit Adam's shop again and see what the ****k the PCM is whining about.

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 571557)
I can't clear codes, prob go visit Adam's shop again and see what the ****k the PCM is whining about.

well there's your problem. Clear the codes and it should be fine. Did you try pulling the pcm fuse like I stated a couple posts up?

sweetbmxrider 04-06-2009 08:43 PM

i have no idea what you are talking about :shifty:

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:44 PM

Yea I pulled the PCM fuse and left it for a few minutes still nada. And Adam, I stealz you naawwzz.

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 571575)
Yea I pulled the PCM fuse and left it for a few minutes still nada. And Adam, I stealz you naawwzz.

or you could just go to advanced or autozone and not deal with adam??

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:52 PM

I could but I am helping him install his nitrous kit and or finish mine so its a bonus.

sweetbmxrider 04-06-2009 08:56 PM

:shifty: what nawzzzz yo?

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 08:57 PM

"My baby is bottle fed "

Oh I dunno....

NJ346 04-06-2009 08:57 PM

hmm...all this talk about nitrous....:twisted:

sweetbmxrider 04-06-2009 09:04 PM

dooooooo itttttt

LTb1ow 04-06-2009 09:43 PM

So upon further research, I have like two ABS units. Sweet.
http://www.pharmacy.arizona.edu/staf.../tcsblock1.jpg

Thats a TCS controller. Coool.

sweetbmxrider 04-06-2009 11:13 PM

i thought it was going to be separate. freakin obdI cars. so its all good?

LTb1ow 04-07-2009 09:38 AM

LOL nope. Still gotta figure out how to make the computer stop whining.

sweetbmxrider 04-07-2009 10:05 AM

maybe pull the relay?

there is an electronic brake traction control module EBTCM as well as an EBCM, no traction.

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DESCRIPTION
The ABS system is controlled by a microprocessor based Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM). Inputs to the system include four wheel speed sensors, brakes, ignition switch and unswitched battery voltage. Outputs include three bi-directional motor controls, three lamp controls, two solenoid controls and the system enable relay. A serial data line, located in terminal 9 of the Data Link Connector (DLC), is provided for service diagnostic tools and assembly plant testing.

The EBCM monitors the speed of each wheel. If any wheel begins to approach lock-up and the brake switch is on, the EBCM controls the motors and solenoids to reduce brake pressure to the wheel approaching lock-up. Once the wheel regains traction, brake pressure is increased until wheel begins to approach lock-up. This cycle repeats until either vehicle comes to a stop, the brake is released or no wheels approach lock-up. Additionally, the EBCM monitors itself, each input and each output for proper operation. If any system fault is detected, the EBCM will store a DTC in nonvolatile memory.

On a EBTCM, the ABS portion of the module operates the same as a EBCM. A EBTCM is used if the vehicle is equipped with either the Enhanced Traction System (ETS) or Traction Control System (TCS). The ETS or TCS portion of the EBTCM monitors wheel spin slip through the drive wheels speed sensors. If the wheels begin to slip, the EBTCM determines the desired wheel torque needed to minimize wheel slip. This information is sent to the PCM through the Serial data link. On models equipped w/ETS, the PCM controls engine torque by ignition retard and transmission shifts. On models equipped w/TCS, the PCM controls engine torque by ignition retard, transmission shifts and applies brakes several times until the vehicle regains traction. Once the vehicle regains traction, brake pressure is decreased and engine torque reduction is no longer requested. This cycle repeats until traction control is no longer necessary.
sounds like fun for you!

LTb1ow 04-07-2009 10:08 AM

Aww whatttt theee fuuuuuuuuuuck GM.

God damn it.


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