i think they would make this like the static stickers that they use for those breast cancer awareness and Carpool (hov) lane stickers for hybrids.


http://www.toyota.com/html/hybridsyn...es/i_perks.jpg




also i think this would be a great idea. ticket the hell out of kids that take the sticker off too.

the kids that arent running front plates get 2 tickets now :rofl:

and thats 6 months suspended license too i think

you don't pay, he pays a little more because you are a licensed driver in the household. insurance companies don't care that daddy wont let his daughter or son drive his car. they just care that they could sneak it out one night and smack it up

i understand i don't exactly pay but that little bit more that my dad gets charged i have to pay and i guess it makes sense just in my case if i ever drove his truck id be thrown out and disowned so fast

right, but kids take their parent **** out all the time. and the companies know that.

and statistics prove that...plus people lie to the insurance companies. Sure, my kid doesn't drive my car, sure.


BTW, they are going hard after kids 1st because they don't vote or really pay taxes like the 65+ up AARP crowd. Once the kid laws are firmly in place then the AARP has less of an argument for cracking down on the older drivers. Politics matter, and the stats bear out the actions.

im curious to see how this will actually work. so happy im 18. But damn, no plea bargains anymore?

That's because insurance is so damn high. On every car I've owned, I've had my parents listed as the primary drivers. (And on the Firebird and Camaro, it was listed as a 'pleasure' vehicle)
I'm listed as the driver of the family's mini-van and it keeps my insurance reasonable.

then you should.

A. not complain about what the companies/state do

or

B. live within your means and buy a car you can afford to have yourself listed as its owner

Just re read this, and nice Bonzo. Very nice. lol

good call i guess its not cheap to follow the rules

I pay 650 every 6 months and I am primary on my Z. Dunno, that ain't much if you have a job.

that isnt bad at all

For what type of coverage? Not a shot at you but not all insurance is the same. If it's liability only and you crack up your own ****, well there you go. Cheap insurance does not necessarily mean bad coverage all the time, but it does mean it a lot of the time.

how so? that wont stand in court.

i pay 4k/yr for a car i can't drive

i don't have an accident on record :moon:

i am SO glad i'm over 18, i would have been royally ****ed when i first started driving but i probably would have learned much faster.

i'm all for this though, some new drivers are ****ing dumb.

1000 deductible, and basic coverage. If the car is in an accident it is safe to say I am buying it back. Or just not claiming it. But yea, insurances are not all the same. I actually need to start looking for a new one, gotta get my parents out of the liability loop.

1000k deductible :scratch:

What?

You have a $1000 deductible from what it looks like. Not $1,000,000 (1000k) deductible.

Yup, that tricycle rider must be on something, 1000k, geez.....

i just went to esurance to get a quote, well actually first i went to thegeneral.com and they don't offer coverage here. so ya esurance wanted me to list 1 by 1 any major violations of the last 5 years and any minor of the last 3. yeah i have like 15 or more. the driver abstract only shows 40 most recent histories and shows bs stuff inbetween everything. so i gave up

Ireland:


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multime...AT_468279a.jpg



I totally agree with this. It might just bring some of these kids back down to earth and remind them constantly that they are new at driving and they lack the experience to ridiculously whip around a 3500lb piece of steel, not to mention inform other drivers in a close proximity to be cautious.

I was going to say that for insurance (I just went for a qoute for the 84 TA), for me as a 22 year old and no driving record, it was 61 a month. With me as the primary and my name on the title. It moves out of the "idiot" category when you turn 23. So the rate might go down a bit. I asked about the collision thing, the car is too old to do that. Besides if I do somehow wreck it I am rebuilding it....read my intro story to see why.

I think you're not fully out of the idiot category until you're 26

I think it depends on the carrier. I was told that the insurance was not going to be as high if I owned my car at 23 than it would be at 22. And I specifically asked that question though I probably didn't use the terms "idiot category."