Listen all o' yo, it's sabotage.

haha yea i was just messing with you vinn...but people got way carried away as usual... i dont really care for the lt1-ls1 argument... i like my car and i can care less... i agree though that working on other peoples cares isnt the same as working on your own... unless they are a close friend or family then it makes me feel good to help...

Ive seen some of the big hit nitrous guys do a full plug swap in under 15 minutes. Talking 400+ hit guys who read there plugs after every run. So its not impossible.

LT1 is just another normal small block so it's no big deal. 4th gens are a pita to work on in general. It's no picnic changing plugs on either the LT1 or the LS1. Headers are about the same pita on both cars especially when you're doing emission's headers. The LT1 is a little more of a pain because of the EGR setup but they're pretty darn close. 396 big block if you want easy.

I'm not talking about in/experience. its a simple fact that the lt1 will definitly take longer to do a plug/wire change than an ls1.

I've owned/worked on lt1's too.

ls1-equal length wires (lt1's need to select proper length)
ls1-coil-per-plug on top of valve covers(lt1 have to route wires along block and into opti)
ls1-plugs,little more access to remove than lt1

all these things allow the plugs and wires to be change alot faster than an LT1.
if for some reason you don't believe/understand this.
than bring your car down, I'll put $500 in your hand if you can change yours out before I get mine done.

NOTE: my original post was just breakin nuts, but some people here can't take it, so therefore I have to prove my point here.

personally: I like lt1's (the grunt,lowend torque and the sound of it. But I have grown to love my LS)

there is no more room in an LS1 than an LT1, wires are obviously easier but LT1s are not by any means hard. you're making it sound like babies will cry and planes will fall out of the sky if you have to do a plug/wire change in an LT1.

But it's not really because of the LT1, it's because of the 4th gen body. Changing plugs is one thing, changing wires is not done as often as plugs though. The LT1 is definitely more difficult with some of the maintenance but in the end they are both a pita compared to a 1st or 2nd gen.

And everyone is just busting each others balls in here so nobody should be taking it too seriously. :wink:

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I didnt say it was inpossible. He said he could change the plugs on any LS series engine in under 20 mins with his eyes closed!! I offered him 500.00 to see if he could do it one my T/A which is just a bolt on car. I never said it was inpossible. I use to change the plugs on my 3.8 firebird in about 25 mins. Thats because like you said I had nitrous and changed the plugs every 2 months or so. I also had no a/c and no egr so it was simple. It was also my car so I knew everything about it.

I want to see you change the plugs on my T/A with your eyes closed in less then 20mins. Like I said before if you can do that then I will give you 500.00!!

3.8 Turbo V6s (Grand National motor) are truly great. I would love to build one and put it in my Camaro. I figured it would just be easier to go w/ the LT1.

It would certainly be unique, and nothingsays badass like a turbo spooling up when you punch it :)

I guess you missed the part about me ignoring the 3.4 vs 3.8 comments and directly quoting Vinny's comment, which was in reference to this:
GM chose to develop the 60* v6 platform for the future and drop the 90* platform, and based on the current crop of v6 engines that are being offered in today's cars, it sure looks to me like they made the right choice.

- Justin

No, there is something. Two turbos.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...guy/engine.jpg

lt1 ftw

lets all make an attempt to not act like fools and stay on topic

Did plugs on my ls1 for the first time and it took my 2 hours. Def easier then a lt in my opinion but i never owned or worked on an lt motor that was mine which does make a difference. But if i were to buy a car becsaue of how hard it was to work on Id get a mustang. Did plugs on my buddies mach and it took a half hour of taking my time

should look into 4 banger honda's if you want quick plug changes.

how can you say that its easier having said that you've never worked on an LT1

I have. My buddy owned one. I've done alot of work on his. Plus worked on a few at the shop when I worked there. But I never owned one myself it's alot easier when your working on you own car. That's what I meant but I can't speak English.