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WildBillyT 08-28-2012 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 848123)
yes, mounting matters a bunch. which is why every ricer moron with harnesses bolted to the floor are all going to compress their spines. seat style matters too. check that schroth document.


edit1: now that I think of it a car seat is a great example. look at the instructions. where the shoulder belts go through the seat must be above the child's shoulders.

Right, but bringing it full circle, that seems (to me) like the illegality of it is because they are non-factory and non-DOT approved restraints so you may not technically be wearing a (legally defined) seat belt in the eyes of a police officer. Not because a 5 pt harness system is less safe than a basic 3 point. The danger comes in improper mounting and placement.

LTb1ow 08-28-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 848126)
Right, but bringing it full circle, that seems (to me) like the illegality of it is because they are non-factory and non-DOT approved restraints so you may not technically be wearing a (legally defined) seat belt in the eyes of a police officer. Not because a 5 pt harness system is less safe than a basic 3 point. The danger comes in improper mounting and placement.

And right back round teh circle, old cars came "safe" from factory without belts, so you adding belts is illegal and unsafe in the same way a 5 pt is on a newer car.

sweetbmxrider 08-28-2012 07:35 PM

Good point on the child seat.

Featherburner 08-28-2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 848127)
And right back round teh circle, old cars came "safe" from factory without belts, so you adding belts is illegal and unsafe in the same way a 5 pt is on a newer car.

Who said they came "safe" from the factory without belts? Back then the factory said we will make your car safe for more money. Seatbelts were an option!

Blacdout96 08-30-2012 03:03 AM

Didn't the early Vipers ( I believe the GTS) come with 4 point harnesses from the factory?


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