Easy tough guy, no need to curse at me. I'm 32 years old and don't really need that kinda crap; my own students give me enough to deal with. You asked for an opinion, and I gave it.

It doesn't matter if you drove an F-body at 13 (way to go, illegal!). If you got cought, you can kiss getting your license goodbye for another few years beyond 18. The fact remains, you drove a deadly 150-hp LG4 home, and around your block, not a 450hp track car! It doesn't matter if you say you'll drive carefully. If you nail it on the street with that much power, crazy stuff will happen. And wheelies on a tractor is nothing compared to hanging the wheels on the track.

I give you props for having the cojones to disassemble the car and learn how stuff works but you really need to figure out what this car is going to do for you. The terms "big horsepower" and "streetable" do not belong in the same sentence. Sure, you can drive a 450hp car to your job, with a nice 4K rpm stall converter and 4.10s, get 2mpg, and sweat to death 'cause it won't have air conditioning, or you can build something a little more tame and learn as you go.

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thats what I mean, I am in know way saying that I can handle a 450 hp car.

But Im saying I know how to respect a 450 hp car. :lol:

tpi monte ss:

I wasnt refering to you

um..i wasnt agreeing with you, i was just trying to tell jake that he's confusing confidence with overconfidence. i wouldn't let you drive my lawnmower :lol:

I know.

But I said that because, Im not saying I can handle a 450 hp car, but Im saying Id treat it with the utmost respect and wont get cocky..

thats what i meant, but i couldnt find the word. arrogance was the word i was going for

Well, if streetable and reliable are your goals, then you need to decide on a different head and intake setup than the one that you are thinking of now. That will pretty much never be found on a streetable motor.

Vortec heads, RPM Airgap manifold, and mild cam. And that would prolly still be "too much" motor for a 17 year old.....

- Justin

in soviet russia, confidence has you!

Did you sell it to him yet, It seems like putting a good combo together when picking a cam is not hard to do if i would know the combo, like how much are the heads ported, were they flowed,plus when you pick a cam out you just can't throw it ac am in and expect it to work, are the spring rates ok, spring heights play a big factor, i'd like to help, if he wants a stock motor with a cam and intake,some compression, i could do that,if he's buying your motor i could help him, i think with the right cam, i don't see why it should go 12's or quicker, well let me know. JR1.

JR, keep in midn this is going into a kid's first car, he's 15 now and the car's gonna be sitting 2 years before he even has his license

Well said Justin!

ok lets put my age and expeirence aside..

I need a combo.

I dont want to spend money now and then money later to go faster.

I want it done the first time. ill state again My car wont be a daily driver

I don't care if it will be a daily driver, or it will be on a trailer on it's way to the track. I still say that is too much motor for a person with your driving experience to handle. I won't put that information aside, because there's always a chance that I could be the first person that you are lined up against at the track.

When I was 17, I had an '85 Camaro with a 2.8. I got in enough trouble with 135 horsepower. I would hate to see a 17 year old driving a car with this motor you are planning on buying anywhere, street, track, driveway, etc.

- Justin

I think you either need a less racy top end or amore racy bottom end. Track car or not with that intake and those heads your bottom end won't be able to spin fast enough to really use it. I'd either buy a drop in crate engine or do up that 350 with vortec or fast burn heads and an RPM air gap manifold and maybe something like an LT4 hot cam. One of my friends has a ZZ4 shortblock with fastburn heads and LT4 cam running through a TBI and it is making about 390 to the wheels. That is alot of engine for any inexperienced driver (old or young) but would be infinately better for you then what you are planning.

if you want it done right the first time, rule #1 is that the cheapest way ain't gonna be the best way to buy a motor.
you are dealing with used parts top and bottom end. freshened or not, they have still seen whatever rpm how many times. that is service life that is already beaten out of the hard parts.
there is also the issue that you don't have a single part on the car that can withstand or hook the kind of power the top end of that motor is capable of producing.
keep it simple, 350HO, performerRPM or similar intake, 750DP carb, and a good fuel pump. it is strong, reliable, and easily capable of putting your car into the 12's. when the time comes to go a bit faster, the answer is a quick cam swap away.

Less talk, more listen, young man. These guys know more about engines then you (and probably me). But my experience has always been guys go with too much cam and/or too much carb.

its a fresh bottom end,all new ****.and the heads have brand new springs/valves
and i found a solution to the intake/cam problem.
after much calling around to some of our friends shops today i located a dual plane street/strip manifold that fits the raised port heads.range of 1,500-6,500 rpms.so u can use a more street friendly cam

btw the new intake wont cost u anything,im getting it on a trade for the victor jr for u.

i dont have the flow sheets offhand but i can get them,the springs are good for .650 lift .I have the correct roller cam for the combo but he deff wont be able to use that.And now that i found him a streetable manifold,he wont need a real wild cam,so ill just have him buy a camkit that comes with the right springs,cause i already know the springs on the heads wont be of any use with the smaller cam

so now you wanna put a performer RPM style intake on a set of heads that are ported to flow past 7000 rpm?