Exactly. SLP is in a position to market a high performance version of a car GM is allowing them access to and I have no doubt they will move units, I just wonder if it is a viable mass to pay for all the R&D, marketing, and production costs at this point.

It's not like 500hp is terribly hard to find in that price range, so coming in with a niche vehicle may be a tough sell when the competition has a 100k warranty compared to your 36k miles. I see that as a massive dividing line.

The arguments of "I can do blah blah blah for cheaper" are also a pile of crap. Let's see you do whatever and still have a new car warranty. Comparing a new car to a home brew new car to a hot rodded used car is not a level playing field no matter how you want to slice it. You may as well talk about picking up the $500 3rd/4th gen V6 and spending 40k on mods, yeah it will be fast but it still ain't a new car.

that's it in a nutshell.

if you push the price tag north a little bit, you can end up with most all, if not all new parts in a 25 year old uni-body. but it still ain't a new car, with a new car warranty.

most of, if not all, the R&D is done. they own the prototype car. while this is not true in all instances (they are currently looking for a stock c6 for some R&D), they get off cheap if all they have to do is spend labor and a few discounts versus the pricetag of a new car plus the labor... not to mention the brain stew that is behind the modifications - that doesn't grow on trees.

i think it's more appropriate to say that most people would not have the idea for such a car. then the wherewithall to make the appropriate changes to the car to get the desired performance level all keeping the manufacturer happy enough to foot the bill for warranty work on the car. there is a big difference between that and taking an older car and dropping a motor in it (or making some other modification to it in your backyard). i don't buy that anyone, save a few well aged speed shops, could pull off something like that with a new car. none of the parts for the supercharger exist outside of the supercharger itself. that means making or modifying an intake, bringing a new belt in or modifying a serpentine belt to run the thing and the brackets... and where is it going to get the oil to keep it lubricated and... that's not even all that needs to be done for the SC, then you have to think about the proper modifications to the chassis in order to get the new power to the ground (you didn't think that it was just a supercharger, did you?)... and... and... it's outside the grasp of most people to even come up with the idea of modifying a new car to bring it to that performance level. copying what's already been done (like the guy who says he could build the exact same thing for less) doesn't count because it's not going to have the warranty (which might not seem like a lot to most people, but if you have one of the unfortunate cars that lean heavily on the warranty you'll be glad it has one)...

it looks ok....but their ad for "0-60 in 4.3 seconds and quarter mile in 12.6"?????!!!!!!! with "500hp" haha what a TURD.

yeah seriously, wtf?? 500 hp to trap 115? thats pathetic....:moon:

but the ligenfelter one ran a 12.8.................so there goes that argument

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/automo...ontiac-g8.html

12.6 on plain old street tires, trying to put down that kind of power, in a heavy car(heavier than stock) doesn't sound too bad to me. The car is set up with a little better handling and still supposed to have a stockish ride, not exactly a 1320' killer as delivered.

very true...but im still not impressed.