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mystictealLT1 08-11-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN (Post 624716)
make sure to post this on LS1tech too. The larger the audience, the better chance you have of getting things done.

+1 but be prepared cartek guys will come out of the woodwork on ls1tech

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 04:24 PM

i will get to the route of the problem tonite before i start posting/bashing the crap out of cartek. they have done very well for me & my buddies in the past.
either have a bad injector or 2 or have a ground issue since the injectors work off switching ground.(not likely cause real clean harness & install)

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 06:27 PM

CARTEK is in the CLEAR (boosted lq9 tragedy)
 
well guys got to the root of the problem...........

boost reference fuel pressure reg. bladder ruptured allowing fuel to fill the intake via boost ref. port. line to intake.

100% not my fault or carteks

100% proffesional products fault.
contacted proprod and i have to email pics and explaination of how this happened & what is bad. said they will do there best to rectify the problem.

they will be handing me a check for a couple grand is how theyre gonna rectify the f*****n problem !
spent way to many hours research and build of this engine to take it in the @ss over a $200 part that i thought was so called ..."professional" !!!!!!!!

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 06:33 PM

lot of things i'd like to do to those guys right this moment.
$8000 motor f*****n junk now !!!! 6mths of my life wasted not driving my prized possession. f*** f*** f***.

LTb1ow 08-11-2009 06:35 PM

Its just a car.

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 624871)
Its just a car.

if i could hit you throught the computer i would !!!

i'm married w/ 3 kids and have my own constructon business. do you have any clue how hard it was for me to make time to get this car together. hour or 2 a nite a couple all nighters here an there. f*** man that was cold.

but yes it is only a car, but it was a lot of my blood sweat tears and lack of sleep to only be sabitaged by a $200 part

sweetbmxrider 08-11-2009 06:42 PM

well at least you figured out what the **** happened. hope they make some good on your loss

Kat 08-11-2009 08:09 PM

I feel your pain. I have about err 10k or so in the vert's motor now. Just to have it ****ed up by a 6 dollar oil filter sucking in on itself. When I really needed the 3 dollar one from walmart.

Good luck tho dood. If ya need help let us know. There are a few good people on here that dont mind working.

As for tuning, JS Performance or any of the site sponsors are good and will work with ya :)

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kat (Post 624902)
I feel your pain. I have about err 10k or so in the vert's motor now. Just to have it ****ed up by a 6 dollar oil filter sucking in on itself. When I really needed the 3 dollar one from walmart.

Good luck tho dood. If ya need help let us know. There are a few good people on here that dont mind working.

As for tuning, JS Performance or any of the site sponsors are good and will work with ya :)

thanks & sorry to here bout the filter issue. i won't use walmart/fram/stp etc.... when it comes to gaskets / filters i only use gm o.e....
a couple years back there was issues with filter w/ no check valve in them that caused lot of engine probs.

i would have used one of the sponsors for tuning but i am one of those guys that will stick with what has worked best for me , once i get f****d never use again.
had good experience w/ over 5 cars via carteks tuning, didn;t want to chance someone else.

CARTEK did say they would pt car back on dyno and retune for free ($750 normally sd tune) since they felt bad that i had some issues w/ car. Wasn't their fault at all so thats pretty stand up of them in my book.

Blackbirdws6 08-11-2009 08:59 PM

Glad you found the problem and hopefully you will get some help for your troubles. Sure its just a car but I value my time and its hard to come by sometimes. I would be furious if this happened to me and absolutely bummed. Hope it goes together easier this time around.

Kat 08-11-2009 09:02 PM

Thats cool they are going to do that for ya!..

Heh the oil filter I used was a Pure One Purolator.. Go figure I need the Wix racing one... ha. Lesson learned.

MyFirstZ 08-11-2009 09:38 PM

another reason to add to my fear of forcing feeding a naturally aspirated car.

reason #13467456 after market part failure.

its always good to figure out what the problem is though. Hope everything works out for ya.

if it makes you feel better your car would have walked all over most of us for that one hour

PolarBear 08-11-2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiplash Performance (Post 624524)
I saw my injector duty cycle being 110%.

Thats impossible...... :rollseye:

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 09:44 PM

part failure........ #1 reason for angry mechanics.
i got out of the industry cause i lost my love for building cars being that was all i did all day.
and then getting the passion back for it, then something like this happens.... man, brings ya down real quick !!!

you know in lampoons christmas vacation when chevy chase goes off on his rant after getting his jelly of the month club certificate .... no good,slimy,fat,fartsmellin,cheap etc.etc. etc....

i'm that friggin pissed off !!!

PolarBear 08-11-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER (Post 624866)
100% not my fault or carteks

I thought it was from the other post? Nice to jump to contusions and blame them.

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Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER (Post 624866)
they will be handing me a check for a couple grand is how theyre gonna rectify the f*****n problem !

Good luck with that :rofl:

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 09:48 PM

see post CARTEK IN THE CLEAR....
found a ruptured diafram in the boost reference fuel pressure reg.
was pushin fuel into intake vai the boost port line to manifold

$200 part f*****d me !!! $8000 motor junk now.

MyFirstZ 08-11-2009 09:49 PM

i don't get that angry when i get a comeback for bad parts, i just get annoyed i gotta do that **** again. Mainly cause i lose nothing just time, nice being corp. owned sometimes.

But i know what you are saying when its your own car. Luckily i have not experienced this yet. I know i will. Big reason why i am hesitant about getting into internals of my car since its a DD .

Anti_Rice_Guy 08-11-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PolarBear (Post 624958)
I thought it was from the other post? Nice to jump to contusions and blame them.

Maybe he jumped to a contusion, which led to him jumping to a conclusion :wink:

S.J.SLEEPER 08-11-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MyFirstZ (Post 624960)
But i know what you are saying when its your own car. Luckily i have not experienced this yet. I know i will. Big reason why i am hesitant about getting into internals of my car since its a DD .

do the bolts on and leave the rest stock.
do yourself a favor and save yourself now..... oh wait , you own a fbody & your already addicted to the hp

FlyingDutchman 08-11-2009 10:56 PM

my motor hyrdo-locked within 200miles of owning it, turned the key one morning (like a week after taking it home) one loud bang and it was over, bad gasket let coolant in and rod failed

needless to say that was 3000$ after all was said and done

V 08-11-2009 11:58 PM

i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

NJ Torque 08-12-2009 12:45 AM

PP seems like ****... even on LS1Tech, theyre intakes have not a good review...

nj85z28 08-12-2009 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 625003)
i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

i sort of remember reading about that a long time ago

WildBillyT 08-12-2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nj85z28 (Post 625017)
i sort of remember reading about that a long time ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Torque (Post 625013)
PP seems like ****... even on LS1Tech, theyre intakes have not a good review...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 625003)
i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

I wasn't really going to go into this, but since it came up:

Professional Products has never had a solid rep from what I've seen. When I first heard the name they were big into ripping off Edelbrock's manifolds and selling them at a lower price (since they don't have R+D costs to cover). They sell cheap imported knock offs that people buy because of price point. You hear tons of stories about bad imported products but they still sell very well.

SJ, I hope you get your money back. This is a ****** raw deal and I hate reading about it. Don't hesitate to go to the state attorney general about it. I've had to do that before and it helped my cause. Going to be a tough fight getting money from an already slimy company.

btownws6 08-12-2009 09:44 AM

damn well at least cartek is willing to help ya with the retune and i'm sorry to hear about that and i know the feeling ive had some many plans for my car now that i make enough money but with my daughter and work it's hard to even change the oil so i feel your pain man my 89 has been sitting for 2 years now


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