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redsoxsstink 09-27-2012 10:00 PM

get rid of the boy-racer tear drop design on the llights and the black side vent and it would look decent.

and who else this the vette flags are starting to look like a screaming chicken stollen off smokeys t/a?

coolmanvette75 09-28-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redsoxsstink (Post 852783)
http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2012/09/vetterear.jpg

as seen on

http://www.corvetteonline.com/news/i...e-c7-corvette/

i really cant stand it. i like the tails on the camaro but not the vette

Pretty crazy how accurate the Jalopnik rendering is...

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/ima...164ca05252.jpg

BigAls87Z28 09-28-2012 08:56 PM

Remember when I said Jalopnik's rendering is 99% right?

Yeah.

BigAls87Z28 09-28-2012 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 852810)
I think your being a little excessive with the GM love. There are some things Al that we can certainly agree on, but when 8 out of 10 people are already disappointed by what the newest renderings are, it says something, that maybe GM should focus on making it a new generation Corvette instead of trying to make it the next chapter in the sports car world. I understand that GM will use certain styling cue's throughout their line ups (i.e. tail lights) but just like Aston Martin's newest Zagato, they reused the Nissan GTR's side window strake, which certainly knocks it down a couple of notches for not being original.

Oh, so I guess if you love the way the car looks, you must hug GM nuts, but if you don't, you are right? This is how this plays out every time. I cannot possibly have a say in anything because I automatically pick a GM vehicle over anything else right? My opinion is instantaneously thrown out because I don't agree with 8 out of 10 people in this thread?

Who gives a **** if they used a similar DLO design for a rear window? It's a design element that has NEVER made it to any production Corvette. I guess it's not original because they didn't design some fancy window opening? But I guess when they tried to break out from the design and push the envelope, they are stupid and should rethink it.

Listening to people like the 8 out of 10 in this thread would cause the car to lose 50% of its handling, most of its features, gain a big block and probably a live axle.

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I don't know how to explain the rear, but it looks like it was squashed together, instead of flaring out, giving it a disproportional look. I'm guessing they are going for a little more european flare, but they'd be best to stick with the wide hips. I'm guessing it deals with the tail lights, their grouped too close together. Hopefully these are nothing but guess, or first round renderings, and that they improve upon the proportions.
Nothing European about that car. Ferrari? Okay, I can see it, but Ferrari has always lead the design in performance coupes.
They shrunk the width to make it more appealing to European tastes, yet they didn't want to give up on the look, hence the heavily revised tail end and rear glass.

None of this is first round renderings. The Detroit Auto Show is in 4 months, this IS it.

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The Viper Has been hanging on kids walls since it's renderings and unveiling in 1989, and has done nothing but made tongues in peoples mouth roll out. I will say that the most recent generation before production was ceased was not to my liking, and was bland, but a first generation GTS will always be on my want list till the day I'm rolling in the dirt 6 feet under. This current generation that I got the chance to see at the NYIAS and at Laguna Seca in both road and race form, I spent a combined amount of time of about 30 minutes looking at them, and I would of looked more but the wife was getting impatient. I can guarentee you that this current generation Viper will only be gray if you paint it that color.
Viper is two generations behind Corvette, and now there is a C7 coming out that will push it further.


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And to compare the Viper to the Corvette is really Apples to oranges. The Viper is an exotic, and the Corvette is an affordable sports car, enough said.
Two door, two seat, long nose, short deck sports car made in America by an American car company, with a high horsepower engine won't be compared?
And Viper an exotic? Pushing it with that comment.

The biggest thing that will separate the two will be price, and that's only until ZR1 comes back out.

Mike 09-28-2012 09:35 PM

Now that I see a full car shot I don't hate it. I do wish the taillights were different.

Blacdout96 09-29-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 852930)
Oh, so I guess if you love the way the car looks, you must hug GM nuts, but if you don't, you are right? This is how this plays out every time. I cannot possibly have a say in anything because I automatically pick a GM vehicle over anything else right? My opinion is instantaneously thrown out because I don't agree with 8 out of 10 people in this thread?

Not really, because if I was along with 8 out of 10 people that like it, then it would be a general approval of the car, not a nut swinging fest. You do have a say, but you instantly go into defense mode if anybody has anything less then a positive remark about it instead of maybe laying back a little and letting it slide, and that's what posts you as a uber GM fanboi compared to a large majority on this site, and that will slant your answers somewhat.

It would be like having a Ford fan signing up, and any new Ford model that comes out, especially the Mustang, he would do nothing but run up and down the forums proclaiming how much better it is compared to (insert GM model) and is rewriting history. And if anybody was to disagree, pants would be unzipping, and a penis fight would ensue. I learned at a young age that you may have something in common with friends and family, but even pushing what it is on them annoys them, and can lessen the interest of those people. It's just best to let it out in small doses to keep the excitement strong.

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 852930)
Who gives a **** if they used a similar DLO design for a rear window? It's a design element that has NEVER made it to any production Corvette. I guess it's not original because they didn't design some fancy window opening? But I guess when they tried to break out from the design and push the envelope, they are stupid and should rethink it.

Well.....yeah actually.


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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 852930)
Listening to people like the 8 out of 10 in this thread would cause the car to lose 50% of its handling, most of its features, gain a big block and probably a live axle.

I don't see a single person on here complaining about any of the other information so far provided, such as the LT series engines and power numbers, nor have I ever heard anybody complain about Corvette suspension, but 50% or more of people do usually buy a car because it looks good.
However, seeing the recent photo showing both the side and rear, the side looks great, but the rear looks to be designed with a straight line ruler, which is a shame because it throws off the rest of the lines.
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 852930)
Nothing European about that car. Ferrari? Okay, I can see it, but Ferrari has always lead the design in performance coupes.
They shrunk the width to make it more appealing to European tastes, yet they didn't want to give up on the look, hence the heavily revised tail end and rear glass.

That's exactly what I heard, that there was some emphasis to slim the rear slightly to assist in seeing past the rear fenders and to be a little friendlier to European purchasers, so yes that is agreeable, but I feel the lights should of been pushed out a little farther to present the wide stance.

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 852930)
Two door, two seat, long nose, short deck sports car made in America by an American car company, with a high horsepower engine won't be compared?
And Viper an exotic? Pushing it with that comment.

Not at all pushing it. The Viper has been given some Italiano flair thanks to Fiat ( though that's not saying it wasn't exotic before) But exotic to me besides where it may be coming from, is the availability, build numbers, and just how common place they are in every day life. Of course the Corvette is going to have more on the road, they have about 40 years on them, and price wise, the Corvette is a bargain, but certainly with low numbers, especially compare to the Corvette, the Viper is an exotic, no doubt.

I just want to say to the mods, please do not lock this thread. This is not an internet tough guy fight by any means, nor am I "trolling". I find this conversation interesting, and I enjoy debating with Al. I'm sure Al understand what kind of back round I an strong in, just as much as I understand that his back round is deep within GM. I do hope to continue this discussion, and I'm sure this discussion may raise questions and answers for fellow members.

WildBillyT 09-29-2012 10:05 AM

Side render looks 100x better than that of the rear. That rear shot is just truly rough to look at. For some reason it reminds me of an XLR rear. Like the budget ran out after the quarter panels were designed.

I for one will not lock it until it gets down to personal attacks and insults. I'll let the sweeping generalities go for now too :D

V 09-29-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 852950)
That rear shot is just truly rough to look at. For some reason it reminds me of an XLR rear. Like the budget ran out after the quarter panels were designed.

now thats just being mean, I LOVE the XLR!!!

BonzoHansen 09-29-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by V (Post 852955)
now thats just being mean, I LOVE the XLR!!!

you and a handful of 80+ year old men, based on who i see driving those cars

Mike 09-29-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by V (Post 852955)
now thats just being mean, I LOVE the XLR!!!

Stick with the cts. Xlr can't beat most of our cars

WildBillyT 09-29-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 852956)
you and a handful of 80+ year old men, based on who i see driving those cars

I saw John Force in one. That means the opposite of what you might think.

BigAls87Z28 09-29-2012 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 852941)
Not really, because if I was along with 8 out of 10 people that like it, then it would be a general approval of the car, not a nut swinging fest. You do have a say, but you instantly go into defense mode if anybody has anything less then a positive remark about it instead of maybe laying back a little and letting it slide, and that's what posts you as a uber GM fanboi compared to a large majority on this site, and that will slant your answers somewhat.

I wasn't saying anything in defense, I just rolled my eyes at everyone complaining about the design of this car.


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I don't see a single person on here complaining about any of the other information so far provided, such as the LT series engines and power numbers, nor have I ever heard anybody complain about Corvette suspension, but 50% or more of people do usually buy a car because it looks good.
However, seeing the recent photo showing both the side and rear, the side looks great, but the rear looks to be designed with a straight line ruler, which is a shame because it throws off the rest of the lines.
We'll see....

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Not at all pushing it. The Viper has been given some Italiano flair thanks to Fiat ( though that's not saying it wasn't exotic before) But exotic to me besides where it may be coming from, is the availability, build numbers, and just how common place they are in every day life. Of course the Corvette is going to have more on the road, they have about 40 years on them, and price wise, the Corvette is a bargain, but certainly with low numbers, especially compare to the Corvette
Italian flair? That's a nice thing for people to say, but there is NO Italian in this car. Sure, Chrysler can play up the whole Fiat angle, but there is nothing Italian about this car. Just because you visited Olive Garden doesn't make you Italian.
Viper is a fantastic looking car and it will be a great driving car, but I don't buy into the Italian thing and that's a good thing.

V 09-30-2012 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 852959)
Stick with the cts. Xlr can't beat most of our cars

xlr-v... 422hp:wink:

donnj 09-30-2012 04:40 PM

any late C1 will do it for me, hands down....fawn beige with white scallops to be exact. Gotta love the vids like this one, probably makes the purists lose sleep at night

LS1ow 10-01-2012 05:56 PM

i love the look of the C7 and everything about it. The Taillights make it look so mean. you really think GM is gunna build a completly redesigned car and just throw some plain old round lamps out back ? im a huge fan of the C7

BigAls87Z28 10-02-2012 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 853260)
i love the look of the C7 and everything about it. The Taillights make it look so mean. you really think GM is gunna build a completly redesigned car and just throw some plain old round lamps out back ? im a huge fan of the C7

What a fanboi

Mike 10-02-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 853260)
i love the look of the C7 and everything about it. The Taillights make it look so mean.you really think GM is gunna build a completly redesigned car and just throw some plain old round lamps out back ? im a huge fan of the C7

They did for every other generation

sweetbmxrider 11-17-2012 08:58 AM

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Rv...jpg_171022.jpg

And on the page of new cars, why hasn't BigPal cued us in on the ELR?

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/KG...jpg_221244.jpg

OG 11-17-2012 09:43 AM

:barf:

BigAls87Z28 11-17-2012 11:23 PM

Clue you in brah? Where have you been? They announced production over a year ago, snap out of it.

ELR is like a 2dr Volt. Only much better interior and will be more sport-oriented.

Blacdout96 11-18-2012 12:07 AM

So uh....is the Corvette sporting Pep Boy's Audi light strip that follows the bottom and side(s) of the headlamp assembly? How original.

NastyEllEssWon 11-18-2012 06:45 AM

lol if you look at the rear valance and the tails, it kinda looks like a sad face crying with tears streaming out of the eyes on the side. it just looks sad.

on a side note Al, its funny that you talk up every gm product no matter how crappy it looks. im still waiting for you to come home from the dealership with a 5th gen with how much you touted them being the next big thing...instead you came home with an impalibu

BigAls87Z28 11-19-2012 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 859541)
So uh....is the Corvette sporting Pep Boy's Audi light strip that follows the bottom and side(s) of the headlamp assembly? How original.

I don't think we will see that design, but maybe copying the halo style from Camaro.

Blacdout96 11-19-2012 10:01 PM

I like the halo look, makes it look moar menacing

IROCZman15 11-19-2012 11:40 PM

ive been following this for a bit. did not like the look of those rear-end concept pics. AT ALL

that last side shot of the silver one above does make me much more of a fan. i'll never be able to afford one ever, but i don't see gm letting the purists down too much, nor do i see them allowing the car to become too european. i think (and hope) that it will turn out as another generation of awesome corvette models.


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