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Anti_Rice_Guy 11-17-2017 10:06 AM

Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?

LS1ow 11-17-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy (Post 944485)
Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?

Close. Itll never run but mine will be composed of mostly used and second hand items.

wretched73 11-17-2017 10:45 AM

You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!

Jersey Mike 11-17-2017 12:09 PM

Slacker.

BonzoHansen 11-17-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 944488)
You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!

He can't start the car, you want him to cut it up and weld things properly lol

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Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy (Post 944485)
Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Blackbirdws6 11-17-2017 01:08 PM

So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?

The_Bishop 11-17-2017 02:05 PM

Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?

LS1ow 11-17-2017 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wretched73 (Post 944488)
You could build that tubular front end for half the price.

Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!

Way out of my range of skill lol

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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike (Post 944490)
Slacker.

Car is like number 4 on priority list past week. Vehicles that get me to and from work are more important.

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 944492)
He can't start the car, you want him to cut it up and weld things properly lol


:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I can cut with the best of em, the whole welding thing is not more forte

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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 (Post 944493)
So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?

Push is happening, but pretty much impossible. Ill have all night tonight and all day tmmr after i get out of work. With alignment and tune being my 2 biggest hurdles.

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Originally Posted by The_Bishop (Post 944497)
Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?

nah, if i were to go forced induction this motor would be coming out anyway.

sweetbmxrider 11-19-2017 08:36 AM

Isn't racewars tomorrow?

LS1ow 11-19-2017 01:11 PM

Here’s my most recent findings, upon throwing the pushrods back in to try to start with stock MAF and IAT, i came across what I think may be the cause of my issue.

3/4 of my lifters have a “give” to them. When putting in the pushrod, i can push down on it and it will give a bit, then spring back up. 1/4 of them have 0 give at all. Like they are solid. Motor hasn’t been cranked in over a week, so is it possible there is still oil pressure in them?

I installed the pushrods and tightened down the rocker on one of the effected cylinders and did a leak down test. Air comes out both the intake and exhaust as apposed to coming out f the crank case on the other tested cyl.

When installed all lifters were seated again the cam lobe, oiling hole all facing same way. However after some debate i DID NOT soak them in oil before install. Just some assembly lube on the roller and cup.

Is it possible I’ve wiped out some of my lifters? They aren’t any crazy high dollar unit, just LS7s

The_Bishop 11-19-2017 01:19 PM

Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?

If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.

If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.

If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?

LS1ow 11-19-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Bishop (Post 944552)
Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?

If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.

If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.

If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?

I never did a leak down on this particular cyl. I only did the cyl 1 & 2. Got the same results so moved on. Both Cyl 1 & 2 lifters has spring to them. This cyl lifter had no spring to it. So when bolted down there was no “absorbing” the extra length. With the pushrods in and rockers bolted down, the leakdown test had air coming out the intake and exhaust. With the pushrods out, the leak down test passes.

sweetbmxrider 11-19-2017 02:50 PM

Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....

The_Bishop 11-19-2017 03:15 PM

I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.

LS1ow 11-19-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 944556)
Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....

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Originally Posted by The_Bishop (Post 944557)
I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.

Yes, new comp cams pushrod measuring tool came out to 7.250 pushrods. 9 turns of the tool to close. Rockers tightened down, zero lash.

MDSheds_SS 11-19-2017 06:13 PM

Cut the ones you have, and get your ass to Racewars tomorrow!

sweetbmxrider 11-19-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 941146)
Finally was able to get a pushrod checker. Started short and adjusted to till there was no rock in the rocker.

Like a doofus, measured with a ruler and sat 7.250.

Then after Kirk hit me with a http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130103081106

I took out the mic and it was really 7.312. Leaving my options at 7.375 for .062 preload, or 7.400 with .088 preload.

So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!

:shock:

What ones did you go with?

KirkEvil 11-22-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 944562)
So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!

:shock:

What ones did you go with?

I think he ordered a variety pack.

sweetbmxrider 11-23-2017 09:12 AM

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

LTb1ow 11-27-2017 01:02 PM

Update??

LS1ow 11-27-2017 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 944721)
Update??

BTR Holiday Variety pack should be at my doorstep when i get home from work.

LS1ow 11-29-2017 06:46 AM

7.300 rods installed + rockers torqued last night. Valve covers + coils + crap go on today afterwork and then we hope for results.

PolarBear 11-29-2017 07:39 AM

Ugh, such disappoint with that information

LTb1ow 11-30-2017 08:37 AM

Results?

ar0ck 11-30-2017 10:29 AM

The anticipation is palpable.


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