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How do you fix terrorism? You dont, it just happens. Thats like trying to stop drugs, or like having a War on Love. You dont stop it, there is no stopping it. You think that just cause we have all these troops in every spider whole in the middle east means that we arent going to be attacked?
You cant stop terrorism. Invading another country unprevoked aint helping the situation. Afganastan, ok I supported because there in fact were ties to Osama and direct links to other terrorist groups. Iraq...Iraq is just a country ruled but a nasty dictator. They had camps...but so does Saudi Araba and Canada. I dont see M1A1's rolling down the streets of Ryiad or Quebec!!! You can post all these things about what we thought there was in Iraq, but it turns out that the WMD was bogus. Not only was it bogus, but Bush and parts of the goverment knew that, but still pushed for war. So answer me this, one who has all of it figured out....why are we there? Dont say WMD, cause there arent any, and dont say Terrorist Training Camps, cause I know that there are camps all around the world. They had to start somewhere, and they could have started in Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yeman, All sites of major terror attacks to the US and links to 9-11, but we picked Iraq because why? Zero link behind 9-11, zero link behind anything since they have been bottled up after Gull War 1. This is what we are trying to drill through your head and you just keep blabbing about how what we are doing is right. There might be good things going on in Iraq, but they dont match the bad things. Why would we drill in Alaska? See, maybe this is just me. Maybe its because Ive been out of the state of NJ, and outside of this country, but maybe you should realize what that would do? Now Im not a tree hugger, but you dont drill into the middle of one of the most beautiful lands in the world because of gas prices. There is plenty of oil, that is not the problem. Prices of the gas, IMO, is because the oil companies want to rake it in. Gas prices are high, but nothing compared to the rest of the world. Drilling for oil in Alaska isnt going to make it better or drop gas prices down to 150 a gallon. |
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Bush- "no more Mr. Hussein, ill wipe your armies out with one swing of my magic stick, if you dont become my bitch and do as i say" Saddam - "Suck my penis, your daddy couldnt do it and you wont beat me either" Bush - "For the last time put the UN inspectors back in, or ill be forced to put on my robe and magic hat and pwn joo ass to infinity" Saddam - "Suck my penis" Meanwhile somewhere in far far east North Korea magically "develops" Nuclear technology. Bush to NK guy - "cant do that Nukka" NK guy - "i just did, what are you gonna do about it?" Bush - "ill pwn joo with my allmighty wizard skills yo!" *NK guy kicks out UN inpectors* NK guy - "ohh yea? ill NUKE your ass! Give me food, money and whatever i demand and i might stop future develpment of nukes" Bush - "ok..." Back to Iraq. Bush - "ok saddam let the pwnage begin" Saddam - "Allah will pwn joo!" *hides in a spider hole* Bush - *go me, neereer neeener neeener, i fooled americans, yay! i pwn all.* thats how i see it. :shrug: so its ok to north korea do what Iraq did and not get invaded, right? i mean they do have WMDs, they've threated you, and they did kick out those inspectors but yet no one does anything um...:scratch: Should we talk about Saudi Arabia now? "cough" thats where Hijackers were from, not iraq "cough" :lol: |
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Edit: I just contradicted myself in my language of the war on drugs. I mean to say the war against the people responsible for the illegal drugs, not the physical chemicals themselves. |
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Um, dude...you went on this rambling thinking I'm a democrat. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I'm a conservative Republican myself, however it doesn't mean I can't question our government. However now that I read the whole thing it makes sense :) |
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Osama's master plan is to destroy the United States, not because he dislikes us or we dislike him, dah but because we are the epitome of western values which are a threat to his followers' way of life. They intend to do this through control of energy, and the last time i looked we buy oil from them, which they believe enables everything we are. They believe we are morally weak and will not respond to our destruction. They cite the bombing of embassies, Kobar Towers, military installations, and the first World Trade Tower incident, about which we have done nothing but get protest in the past. The anti-war Liberal rallies play right into their hands, as they see we don't have the stomach to stop them. so to answer you dont have a any idea what you are talking about its not blood for oil dude its not we hate them or bush knew --- what ---- that clinton ended all our operations in the area it was a kinder way of doing things, so we end up with no way of knowing they were plaining this ( 911 ) ah yea that is what happened not a smoaking mirror the best guess WMDs did exist and probly were moved but that is not the point you are missing it totaly watching the liberal midea
its only a one side bend over news and you fall for it, the NY times owners at a different time in this countrys history would have been shot for what they did about reporting on watch the money jz |
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Depends on a scale of that particular terrorist attack. Whats the biggest one that stands out in your mind, 9/11 i bet. Now think small, maybe even another country? multiples, that only killed a few people? see its kinda hard..
Ohh and policing everyone wont work for another one simple fact, humans can be easily manipulated. greed, sex, and blackmail - will change anyones views if there's enough of it. |
wow obviosuly almost noone is listening to anything logical said. **** this thread noone pays attention to ****
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you're the one who isnt listening to logic... i mean we get it, iraq cause 9/11 and were gonna attack United States if Bush didnt take immidiate action. blah blah blah... old news.
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IRAQ DID NOT CAUSE 9/11, TERRORITS DID, AND THIS IS THE WAR AGAINT TERRORISM. WHEN UR AT WAR WITH TERRORITS YOU KILL TERRORITS, THESE TERRORISTS HAPPEN TO LIVE IN IRAQ. IRAQ HAD WMD. TERRORISTS USE WMD. see the logic here now? thats how things work.
bigals how were the WMD Bogus?!?! |
ahh crap i quit, its pointless. u win, i lose. Bush is good and all that crap...
i forgot that saying about arguing with idiots, so im out. |
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but they dont exist because i dont want them to. |
FOX NEWS IS CRAP! how many times was it said? its like looking up how bad US is on al-jazeera...
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...pes/index.html (where was clinton?) are u gunna say CNN and worldnetdaily are "crap" too? they say iraq had WMD so they must be crap |
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If terrorists use weapons of mass destruction, then all boeing 747's need to be banned from use. :roll: terrorists use whatever is available. very rarely do they use large scale weapons. most of the time they use pipe bombs and vehicles. and if the terrorists live in Iraq, how come they are still around? we occupy Iraq now so in theory they should all be wiped out, correct? |
They were talking about massive amounts, stock piles of these wepons, ready to be used at a moments notice. Underground bunkers jammed with enriched platonium. I remember that Col. Powell sat in front of the UN and talked about these trailors that could make chem wepons, and I never saw anyone show us this. Yeah, we knew they had chem wepons cause they gased a few thousand Kurds in norther Iraq. They were talking bulks of wepons, from chem to atomic, just ready to go.
Yeah, we can fight the war on terror by stopping terrorists. Only problem is, anyone can be a terrorist. So what does that mean? Give up your civil liberties. Throw out The Constitution, disolve the court system. Lets just give all power to one man, and the military can police the country, and anyone that thinks out of line with what the dictator wants, they get thrown into camps and jails. Hey, that will keep terror down, right? Trust me, if they want to, they will attack again. Its a matter of time till it happens again. It doesnt matter who's in the White House, they will continue to attack. Anyway, Im done with this. Maybe Bush can pass an amendment that you can be voted into as many terms as possible, so that he can rule forever. If you opposed him, you must be a terrorist because only a terrorist wouldnt want that. |
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Ok, apparently you didn't read one of my previous posts that there was training camps in Germany, so we should be there also too right? |
i have had first hand knowledge of hidding wepons and stockpiles, i was with the 101st in vietnam in 1968 / 1969, we ran all over the DMZ and the valley ( hamberger hill area ) - if the people ( the People ) are helping who you are fighting out of fear or loyality, you can find **** unless you trip over it, as it was their in nam, only buy luck did we ever find anything, the berka bunch want us dead and you dont get that, i know its bushes fault, to think you can ignore the real deal just shows how Naive you are and the Rhetoric about Fox news only goes to the point , being young gives you a pass, being in the USA gives you a pass, and thats what we as a people are all about, the only thing young guys who debate this sort of thing should be proud of themselves, they dont make personal attacs on each other like on CNN ( The Communist News Network ) or PMSMBC do every day fox is not the end all do all but they have both sides on ( BOTH SIDES ) on any issue that is being trashed about, its not a one way street and you are smarter than that, your not getting a fair shake only watching what the liberals want you to see and hear, but of course its bushes fault, look around the world is going buy and you have your head in the sand thats bushes fault as well jz
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i have had first hand knowledge of hidding wepons and stockpiles, i was with the 101st in vietnam in 1968 / 1969, we ran all over the DMZ and the valley ( hamberger hill area ) - if the people ( the People ) are helping who you are fighting out of fear or loyality, you can find **** unless you trip over it, as it was their in nam, only buy luck did we ever find anything, the berka bunch want us dead and you dont get that, i know its bushes fault, to think you can ignore the real deal just shows how Naive you are and the Rhetoric about Fox news only goes to the point , being young gives you a pass, being in the USA gives you a pass, and thats what we as a people are all about, the only thing young guys who debate this sort of thing should be proud of themselves, they dont make personal attacs on each other like on CNN ( The Communist News Network ) or PMSMBC do every day fox is not the end all do all but they have both sides on ( BOTH SIDES ) on any issue that is being trashed about, its not a one way street and you are smarter than that, your not getting a fair shake only watching what the liberals want you to see and hear, but of course its bushes fault, look around the world is going buy and you have your head in the sand thats bushes fault as well jz
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Boeing 747's are not weapons of mass destruction. Terrorists can use many things as weapons, but that doesn't mean they should be given better, deadlier weapons.
Saying another attack is going to happen anyways as a reason not to try and stop an attack is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Police work and military dictatorship are not the same thing. Agencies such as the FBI have stepped up participation in the war on terror, partly by increasing cooperation with other state's investigative agencies, yet I would hardly say I live under martial law, 24/7, without being allowed to go to the bathroom without permission. But hey, maybe you guys are right. Lets go back to isolationism. Pull out all our troops and bring all our FBI, CIA, NSA, etc., agents back to the homeland. I mean, what's the use of intelligence? You can't stop attacks from happening. |
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iraq is still a battleground, obviously. pulling out now can destroy all that we worked for. im sure when the time is right, we will pull out of iraq |
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