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LS1ow 07-17-2018 11:57 AM

Looks like it goes as followed...

On the blue PCM connector-

Injector 1 = pin 36
Injector 3 = pin 3
Injector 5 = pin 76
injector 7 = pin 43

so at the injector connector for continuity test pin for the following..

Injector 1 = Black wire
Injector 3 = Pink & Black Wire
Injector 5 = Black & White Wire
Injector 7 = Red & black wire

ANDDD...

There are 2 fuses labeled INJ in the same fuse box as the starter relay and what not. They are not label which is which, but i will check both.

anyone wanna double check my pin out assumption ?

LTb1ow 07-17-2018 01:32 PM

Yes.

Yank a fuse, check for power at either bank. You have a 50/50 chance here

LS1ow 07-17-2018 03:12 PM

swung home on lunch and pulled the fuses. Both good.

Are injectors key on power? So id be able to test for power at the fuse

ThoR294 07-17-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 948497)
swung home on lunch and pulled the fuses. Both good.

Are injectors key on power? So id be able to test for power at the fuse

Should be. They are ground controlled so should have power with Key on engine off.

LS1ow 07-17-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 948500)
Should be. They are ground controlled so should have power with Key on engine off.

Okie, ill check that today as well.

Jersey Mike 07-17-2018 04:28 PM

Nothing to helpful but just make sure you have the correct pcm pinout info for your pcm. I believe GM changed them for 99-02.

LS1ow 07-17-2018 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jersey Mike (Post 948502)
Nothing to helpful but just make sure you have the correct pcm pinout info for your pcm. I believe GM changed them for 99-02.

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LS1ow 07-17-2018 04:51 PM

Here is current plan.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/833/2...3ce08a8c_z.jpg

LTb1ow 07-17-2018 05:28 PM

1) Make sure you have a power at each injector.
2) Check resistance across each injector (actual value is moot, just make sure their balanced)
3) Check continuity back to PCM (Personally I would snag a noid light and just see if PCM signal is getting to injector while cranking/running)
4) Swap banks of injectors and see if problem follows.
5) Cry, drive car into swamp, buy a real LT1 car
6) Success

sweetbmxrider 07-17-2018 06:38 PM

Wait, did you verify spark and compression on the questionable side yet? Fuel, air, and spark are needed obviously so we have to see what is missing.

The pink wire is hot with "Ignition Relay Energized" so if you have power on the one bank, you should have power on the other. As said, all the grounds run back to pcm. Post pics when you find they are all fukt

LS1ow 07-17-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 948508)
Wait, did you verify spark and compression on the questionable side yet? Fuel, air, and spark are needed obviously so we have to see what is missing.

The pink wire is hot with "Ignition Relay Energized" so if you have power on the one bank, you should have power on the other. As said, all the grounds run back to pcm. Post pics when you find they are all fukt

Compression and spark verified.



So the PCM grounds the injector to get them to fire?

LTb1ow 07-17-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 948509)
Compression and spark verified.



So the PCM grounds the injector to get them to fire?

Yes

ThoR294 07-17-2018 08:18 PM

^. Most if not all FIs are ground controlled. Some just fire 4 (or 1 bank) at a time (lol 93s fbodies with bank injection).

Noid light is a great idea too makes testing easy.

LS1ow 07-18-2018 07:07 AM

Here was my findings. Im not sure if i did it right so keep with me, but this is what made sense to me.

Do not currently have a noid light.

1. After verifying the 2 injector fuses were good, i checked to make sure the fuse itself was seeing power. Indeed it is. On to the next.

Everything from here on was done with battery cut off switch off...

2. Checked continuity between PCM connector and injector plug on all 8 injectors, good to go.

3. I wasnt sure how to check for power at each injector, since i was by myself i couldnt crank and watch meter. So with the PCM plugged back in, i stuck the positive pin of the ohm meter in the pink wire terminal, and black to a ground block and it has continuity.

EDIT: If the PCM causes the injector to fire by completing the ground when it is signaled, do the injectors constantly how power while keyed on?

LTb1ow 07-18-2018 07:09 AM

Cranking has nothing to do with power at injectors.

Car on, and you should have 12v at each injector pink wire.

LS1ow 07-18-2018 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 948521)
Cranking has nothing to do with power at injectors.

Car on, and you should have 12v at each injector pink wire.

Will check today on lunch.

So lets say i do have power at all the injectors, that combined with the other info we've already compiled would point to a failed injector driver in the pcm?

LTb1ow 07-18-2018 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 948522)
Will check today on lunch.

So lets say i do have power at all the injectors, that combined with the other info we've already compiled would point to a failed injector driver in the pcm?

Or a unplugged PCM connector.

:bertstare:

LS1ow 07-18-2018 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 948523)
Or a unplugged PCM connector.

:bertstare:

Not sure how possibru since it bolts in doe

LTb1ow 07-18-2018 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS1ow (Post 948525)
Not sure how possibru since it bolts in doe

Are you now doubting me doubting you?

Doubtful.

LS1ow 07-18-2018 10:03 AM

I actually made sure to check they slid into each other smoothly bc you had me paranoid.

Can test injector power with just test light right? Key on with test light clipped to ground, pin pink wire should result in dat light

LTb1ow 07-18-2018 10:23 AM

Correct.

LS1ow 07-18-2018 10:42 AM

Results within next 2 hours

LS1ow 07-18-2018 01:18 PM

OKAY SO.

Conundrum.

Test light i grabbed from work was 1 with 2 leads on it. Since batt is in trunk and couldnt connect, connected neg to ground stud on driver shock tower, posi connected to stud on fuse box. Battery on.

Each pink injector wire, on all 8, light the light up green. According to the instructions for the test light, a green LED means they are grounded.


da fuq

LTb1ow 07-18-2018 01:23 PM

You prob nicked the harness or something

LS1ow 07-18-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 948535)
You prob nicked the harness or something

As in theres a cut or something somewhere so it’s grounding itself?


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