Yup, the age-old problem. You know Bonzo, I was still thinking about this law a little while ago....I don't know all of the statistics off the top of my head and I'm too lazy to look them up but what will having an 11PM curfew do to reduce the number of accidents? Do the statistics prove that 11PM is the magic number when looking at the time of the accidents?

you should have to be able to spell RECKLESS to have a license

I think that has a lot to do with sleeping & driving. I'm willing to bet the stats hold water on the timing.

haha...maybe that would stop all of the foreigners from be able to get licenses.

...just foreigners? Try half of the general population lol

would have stopped you too.......

And there should be no reason for a minor to be out driving past 11. No reason.

work

A 17 year old, working past 11?

:werd: I worked past 11pm a bunch. Now, I believe the previous version of this law had an exclusion for driving to/from work off hours. Does that still exist?

busing/waiting tables, working retail during the holidays.

lots of jobs

I know, but that wasn't my point....

This is exactly the point. A bad driver will be a bad driver whether they are 16 or 25. They need to enforce a more strict test along with more education. The 3 months of driver's ed isn't enough. Bad driving is caused more by ignorance than anything...the only way to get rid of ignorance is through education. Pushing back the age and enforcing new fines only establishes a little extra income and pissed off young drivers if anything. There should be more of a requirement for drivers education, at the drivers cost not the states, in order to obtain a license. You want to drive you need to do the work.

everyone is missing the big picture.



the reason they have the law that you can only have so many passengers in their car is to cut down on the number of multiple teen fatalities. studies have shown that with more passengers the rate for distractions go up. i can concur these studies from my own memories. haha i remember some really bad driving taking place back in the day.

Well I know I sped, took a couple corners like it were a track, but it was well within reason. The worst thing I did was me and a bunch of friends (yea we all had GDLs but I was allowed to take more than one friend as I passed the age limit) had a craving for the cheesecake factory....so off we went down the parkway. Now my car had a broken speedo the wrong way, I looked down and mine was pegged past 90. in that car 90 was well over 100 mph. It was a miricle we didn't get tickets that day. The only time I was ever pulled over was in the wee hours of the morning heading home from the beach "riding the yellow line" please.... anyway, back to my point...bad driving is only improved by experience, the laws are NOT helping that factor...afterall, all of our parents survived that back in the day. So why are we being forced to do all this crap that really doesn't help?

There are twice as many cars on the road now. Cars are faster now. You cannot compare conditions now to 30 years ago.

If that was directed towards me...did I mess up the spelling too? :doh: I do that a lot lol

I would bet kids are stupider(sp?) nowadays too.

i deserved that one

i didn't notice if you did, but two people in a row did and they each spelled it differently

well my original post that had "wreckless" in it was made from a cellphone so I have a partial excuse. My friend also calls himself wreckless ws6 so i assumed that it was spelled that way, guess I was wrong..

Oh ok, I thought you were busting my balls again, lol.

Read today in The Record, they are planning on putting stickers on people ages 16-21 with Provisional Licenses.

Nice. I'm sure it'll change the statistics. But there will still be the same amount of idiot drivers out there.

its funny because i have seen wreckless on traffic tickets :lol:

i guess this might work. its like the proactive vs reactive types of punishment. there should be a dedicated number so you can report aggressive driving by minors only. let the people police themselves kind of thing.

oh ya, i think its 7 out of 10 cars have a driving who has consumed alcohol when driving after 10 pm