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Squirrel 03-31-2010 11:03 PM

I don't know these days
 
I graduated from an accredited college with 144 credits with a major/minor, i'm honestly tired of getting run around by employers, and i told myself if i dont have my CPA or a career by september i will be go into the armed forces... i just want to know, what do i do? give me a heads up.. serious thread, i am the 5th member of all time so please respect

LTb1ow 03-31-2010 11:06 PM

Keep your head up, market is not the greatest, so I doubt is a lacking on your part.

JW 03-31-2010 11:25 PM

What field are you trying to get into and what is your degree in?
Like he said above me, the market is very tough right now.

What kind of work exp. do you already have on the resume? What level are the types of jobs you are applying for, possibly you are over/under qualified.

Give a little more detail.

JW :D

redbanditZ28 04-01-2010 12:57 AM

If you are looking for an accounting career of sorts at a bank, I may be able to help you out, depending on different factors like your job history and education. My dad's bank is looking for an accounting representative to support the CFOs and do a variety of work. PM me if you're interested.

bandit88 04-01-2010 07:44 AM

don't be to hard on yourself...... the job market is slow. My friends who are graduating this semester with Mechanical Engineering degrees can't find anything.

Blacdout96 04-01-2010 07:59 AM

Go oversea's where markets are opening up there, I've been contemplating if should do that, everything around here blows.

ryanfx 04-01-2010 08:13 AM

You'll have to figure out whether the market is slow as a whole for your field, or if it's you in specific that can't find a job (I guess ask your buddies who graduated with you / your degree). If it's only you, go into the armed forces, if it's slow as a whole, avoid the armed forces. Salary wise you'll be shooting yourself in the foot going out fighting instead of doing accounting... even if you don't work for a year or two you'll still come out ahead doing accounting if you ever get into a half respectable company.

edit: This would be a perfect opportunity to go back to school and further your future career by increasing your level of education

Tsar 04-01-2010 08:14 AM

Good luck, I was told I couldn't join because I was a dual citizen, although they lusted after my language skills. :lol:

I decided that I will go back to school, most likely.

LS1Hawk 04-01-2010 09:15 AM

Like others have said, it is a horrible market. Those who don't have jobs can't find them and those who have them are trying desperately not to lose them.

NastyEllEssWon 04-01-2010 09:16 AM

dont join the military as a last resort...you'll end up hating it. ive known a few that had ''no other choice'' and then realize what that means when you're actually a part of it. right now in this market any job is a good job.

jts98z28 04-01-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 694151)
dont join the military as a last resort...you'll end up hating it. ive known a few that had ''no other choice'' and then realize what that means when you're actually a part of it. right now in this market any job is a good job.

x2 my cousin did that and now he is disarming bombs in the middle east, says its the biggest regret of his life and thinks he is going to die everyday, im not hating on the military in any way theyre incredibly brave and i could never do anything they do, im just saying that only join it if you really want to dont do it out of impulse or last resort

Dark_Knight7096 04-01-2010 09:43 AM

I have a 4 year degree in psycholog, graduated Cum Laude, member of Pi Lambda Theta Professional Honor Society in Education, I fell into a 70k a year job that didn't require a GED even (70k was top pay which I started at for my degree and honor society, but everyone reaches that level eventually). I was "laid off" (long story) and was unemployed for over a year at which point I finally landed in a state job that pays less than 30k a year and I was in hardcore competition with Masters and Ph.D. holders to get it. In fact I was the only guy hired in my group of 25 hires that only had a BA, everyone else in the room had an MBA.

It's happening to everyone man, you gotta just keep your head up and keep looking, get in on the bottom somewhere and then work your way up and get your slice.

Squirrel 04-01-2010 11:11 AM

well i took an extra semester so im only 6 credits away from sitting for my cpa and iirc like 16 from my finance degree so going back to school would probably be the best option.. but its just frustrating getting reply after reply of no, even for jobs that require an associates at best

Tsar 04-01-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrel (Post 694173)
well i took an extra semester so im only 6 credits away from sitting for my cpa and iirc like 16 from my finance degree so going back to school would probably be the best option.. but its just frustrating getting reply after reply of no, even for jobs that require an associates at best

"No" is better than no reply at all. And then there are places that get back to you 6 months after you apply. WTF kinda BS is that?

Squirrel 04-01-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 694181)
"No" is better than no reply at all. And then there are places that get back to you 6 months after you apply. WTF kinda BS is that?

hear you bro.. the worst thing is im in the between stage now... out of school with no experience, i couldnt to do an internship, no way could i afford it

Savage_Messiah 04-01-2010 12:22 PM

Tons of people I graduated HS with but never talk to, I'll run into, ask how things are, and it's always the same: graduated school, cant find a job, So it's not really you so much. I'd say just start looking around for stuff even if it doesn't have to do with your degree, it's better than nothing for now. Unless you're 100% sure it's waht you want to do, I wouldn't rush into going back to school, just because I have heard first hand how a friend with a master's was rejected from jobs due to him being over-qualified - they said, this guys better than what we're looking for, if we hire him he'll just leave soon and we'll have to hire again. Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.

Tsar 04-01-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 694188)
Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.

That entirely depends on the industry/sector you are applying to. There are places that won't even let you get an application without Masters. Nowadays everyone and their dog has a BA/BS, damn diploma mills.

Blacdout96 04-01-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 694188)
Tons of people I graduated HS with but never talk to, I'll run into, ask how things are, and it's always the same: graduated school, cant find a job, So it's not really you so much. I'd say just start looking around for stuff even if it doesn't have to do with your degree, it's better than nothing for now. Unless you're 100% sure it's waht you want to do, I wouldn't rush into going back to school, just because I have heard first hand how a friend with a master's was rejected from jobs due to him being over-qualified - they said, this guys better than what we're looking for, if we hire him he'll just leave soon and we'll have to hire again. Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.

Yup, I do work in parts retailing again, but alot of my friends who went to a fancy college, came back and said they're living back at home, and can't find a job out there, makes my day, Im glad I'm skilled in many fields, and if not, I'm quick to learn, always allowed me to have a job.

Tsar 04-01-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 694196)
Yup, I do work in parts retailing again, but alot of my friends who went to a fancy college, came back and said they're living back at home, and can't find a job out there, makes my day, Im glad I'm skilled in many fields, and if not, I'm quick to learn, always allowed me to have a job.

No worries, your bliss is only temporary.

Savage_Messiah 04-01-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 694198)
No worries, your bliss is only temporary.

No bearing on the OP... and going down that road can get real ugly real fast

Blacdout96 04-01-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 694198)
No worries, your bliss is only temporary.

Life is a series of moments, and it's the little things in life that make it worth while.

Not being a dick or anything, just a general question, but tsar what do you do for a living? just curious

Tsar 04-01-2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah (Post 694199)
No bearing on the OP... and going down that road can get real ugly real fast

Fidgit, quit yapping or I'll stuff you in a trash can.

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 694200)
Life is a series of moments, and it's the little things in life that make it worth while.

Not being a dick or anything, just a general question, but tsar what do you do for a living? just curious

I agree living in the moment is great, but many times it's shortsighted.

I go on interviews and get paid, that's how I roll :lol:

In reality, I'm getting ready for law school. Collecting crap, and preparing for the exam so I can go to a good one, hopefully.

I'll be the first one to admit, that that was not my original plan. I couldn't find a job in the industry that I wanted to, so I had to re-evaluate and come up with a new game plan. I wanted to work for .gov or defense sectors, they wanted me too - but one might say that my dual citizenship might have interfered. I still have interviews in April with State Department and NJSP, and I'm waiting on a word If I get to go to FLETC in June or August with another agency. The jobs I want take incredibly long to get. For example, I was an applicant with the one of the best intel agencies for 1.5 years, after which they said "No thanks". So applying to those jobs NOW would be pretty useless, plus I wouldn't want to take someone's spot who really wants it (I'll quit to go to law school anyways).

But yea, soon I might get a job as some sup/assistant manager working for my dad to kill some time. but that's after I take my test for law school.

Blacdout96 04-01-2010 02:34 PM

Thats some straight up ******** with how they handled ya Tsar, I can see their reasoning, but the cold war's over, time to put USEFUL people in those positions.

Tsar 04-01-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96 (Post 694216)
Thats some straight up ******** with how they handled ya Tsar, I can see their reasoning, but the cold war's over, time to put USEFUL people in those positions.

I think I forgot the most humorous part. I tried to go the military route too. Since I have a degree, I was gonna go the Officer route. I did all my paper work, got all the recommendation letters, did PT - the whole thing thing probably took about 2 to 3 months, mostly because of the recommendation letters. One, 1!!!, day before my review board I was told that I was not eligible because I was a dual citizen :lol:

You know what they tried to do? I was told that they have two options available for me. 1 Enlist as a cook for 2 or 3 years. 2. Enlist as a plumber for 2 or 3 years.

I simply laughed, and walked away. But I guess 2009 being the best year ever for recruiting, they don't have to fight much for recruits.

WildBillyT 04-01-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar (Post 694223)
I think I forgot the most humorous part. I tried to go the military route too. Since I have a degree, I was gonna go the Officer route. I did all my paper work, got all the recommendation letters, did PT - the whole thing thing probably took about 2 to 3 months, mostly because of the recommendation letters. One, 1!!!, day before my review board I was told that I was not eligible because I was a dual citizen :lol:

You know what they tried to do? I was told that they have two options available for me. 1 Enlist as a cook for 2 or 3 years. 2. Enlist as a plumber for 2 or 3 years.
I simply laughed, and walked away. But I guess 2009 being the best year ever for recruiting, they don't have to fight much for recruits.

Well, I heard the military is looking for people to help keep some monarch from kidnapping women in some country far away. Do you like the taste of mushrooms? I hear you can make some coin.


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