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11 Bravo 04-28-2006 06:42 AM

N.J. inspection. No cats?
 
To make it short, I may have to get my TA inspected and registered in N.J. next month. It should pass the obd2 fine, but I have QTP headers and orp. I know here in N.C. alot of places don't care about cats and pass me anyway. Will I have problems up there?

JL8Jeff 04-28-2006 07:23 AM

Most likely, yes. They usually stick a mirror under the car to look for the cat(s). If you want to get some compact 3" cats, look into the Pypes cats. Look at the cat welded in crossing from the driver's side here in my picture, that's the Pypes 3" cat. It's still not technically 100% legal because you're not supposed to alter the location of the cat, but most inspectors are just happy to see the cats and won't fail it.

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffhansbur...-pipe1.jpg.JPG

Tsar 04-28-2006 08:35 AM

you will fail with no cats in nj. unless you pay for it.

11 Bravo 04-28-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar
you will fail with no cats in nj. unless you pay for it.

How much are we talking? I may be kind of screwed, because my car is still in the shop in Raleigh getting my motor installed. If it is not done before I move up there in a couple of weeks then I will have to get a N.J. registration. After I drive an unregistered car on an 8 hour trip, after I fly back down to pick it up arggg

Savage_Messiah 04-28-2006 08:56 AM

Another easy thing is to get a couple of old cats, and weld the shields around your ORY where the cats should be...

11 Bravo 04-28-2006 09:32 AM

Well, if anything, I guess I could take it to QTP and have them put a catted Y in, since they are in NJ.

JL8Jeff 04-28-2006 09:39 AM

The Pypes cats are around $59-$69 each but if you shop around on Ebay you can find some good deals on new stuff. You could get some gutted cats or shells welded in to look like cats but that would still kill trees!

NJSPEEDER 04-28-2006 11:16 AM

you have about a 50/50 shot of them looking under the car with a mirror. if you have no codes and they don't check then you are golden. if they check just see if anyone has a catted y you can borrow for a day or two, it is a quikc bolt on to swap it in anyway.

Ian 04-28-2006 12:28 PM

:stupid:

or you can go to a private inspection station and pay them off.

11 Bravo 04-28-2006 12:46 PM

I called my shop and was told the motor is "about" to go in the hole. Don't know if "about" means today, tomorrow, next year or what. If I get it in the next two weeks I'll be good. Otherwise I guess I'll try to get it passed up there and hope for the best. Not looking forward to having a front license plate :(

BonzoHansen 04-28-2006 02:25 PM

Any shop that passes a car w/o cats and doesn’t know the owner is nuts. The state sends setup cars out there just to catch bad shops. The fines can be sizable and a license suspension can be costly business-wise.

Hell, I remember we got fined because one of our guys had tinted windows. They noted his sticker and the tint, then when they came back for the routine occasional visit later, they saw the new sticker, knew by the numbers it was our and that was it. We caught a setup car once for no cat. But the damn things passed emissions. We got lucky on that one that we saw no cat. Back then, the DMV guys were very adversarial with shops, like they hated the shops. It was rather unfriendly. They would yell at us for not initially failing a car for bad tires when they saw new tires on the invoice. I guess their assumption was every tire that was replaced would fail inspection. :roll: I hated those ****s. We ended up billing some inspections on their own invoices, separate from the work. Because we didn’t want trouble because some guy bought wheel & tires the same day he got inspected.

Then again, unless your car is crazy fast (say sub 12), modern cats are not that big a liability like the old days.

69RSZ 04-28-2006 02:55 PM

I had the stock cats on my 2002 and at the end of inspection (you are made to wait in a booth while they do the inspection on your car) I walk out of the booth and he scrapes off the good sticker which they put on 2 years before and he procedes to put a failed sticker on and i said what did it fail for? he said I took off the cats and i said in these exact words like hell i did they are under there and im not moveing this car untill you get the dickhead in charge out here.this car is exactly the way it was when you ******** passed it 2 years ago.they looked more closely and saw the cats and had to put a good sticker on the car.they DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL TO LOOK FOR.just my experince with NJ inspection on my 02 SS

Mike 04-28-2006 03:27 PM

i passed untill they put the mirror under, then they got madddd.......bravo11 send me a pm and ill let ya know what i did

Savage_Messiah 04-28-2006 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
i passed untill they put the mirror under, then they got madddd.......bravo11 send me a pm and ill let ya know what i did

:rofl:

ar0ck 04-28-2006 06:01 PM

On obdII cars it is possible to pass w/o cats. You just need to know the tricks ;)

11 Bravo 04-28-2006 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TransAm4Life
On obdII cars it is possible to pass w/o cats. You just need to know the tricks ;)

OBD2 is the easy part. It's the visual I'm concerned with.

BigAls87Z28 04-28-2006 06:48 PM

Yeah, and if your car is as bad ass as it sounds, Id bet 100% no dount they will be polishing off that mirror to check under the car.

Firebird67dude 04-28-2006 07:06 PM

My car passed with a g****d cat. :shifty:

Rich189 04-29-2006 12:52 PM

if i were you id get some gutted cats... when i got my inspection they looked under my car for a good 5 minutes and i still have the stock y pipe/manifolds

GrandmasterCow 04-29-2006 01:17 PM

yeah, my friend jason passed with his 99 v6 camaro turbocharged and gutted cat, they mirrored , pssed cuz he has the shell there, adn he turned it really good w/o thowing any codes.

Savage_Messiah 05-01-2006 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GrandmasterCow
yeah, my friend jason passed with his 99 v6 camaro turbocharged and gutted cat, they mirrored , pssed cuz he has the shell there, adn he turned it really good w/o thowing any codes.

99 V6 turbo? Is he on full throttle?

NJLT1SS 05-01-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TransAm4Life
On obdII cars it is possible to pass w/o cats. You just need to know the tricks ;)

Please tell me about some of these tricks:o I run OBD1 right now, but I still have my stock 97 OBD2 PCM. Who do you have program it, and who do you take your car too?

Tru2Chevy 05-01-2006 01:10 PM

Finding someone to tune 96-97 LT1s is a pain. There aren't too many people around that do.

- Justin

NJLT1SS 05-01-2006 01:18 PM

Bryan at PCM4less will do it. If I end up taking my car to him for a dyno tune, I will just bring my 97 PCM with me. Im just wondering who I can take my car to privately around here that will pass it. Oh, and I do have 2 cats in my y-pipe with 02 sims, along with EGR, AIR and everyhting else.

GrandmasterCow 05-08-2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
99 V6 turbo? Is he on full throttle?

no he isn't but he only goews online tyo order parts. he dynod at almost 400rwhp with a .90 t5 turbo and air-to-air FMIC.


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