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rgaynor85 06-28-2006 08:33 AM

Some INFO you might want to know.....
 
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW.

READ ON--



Why didn't George W. think of this? Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us!

The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We should return the favor.

An interesting thought it to boycott their GAS.

Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis.

Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil :

Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels
If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION!

Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:

Citgo.......................0 barrels
Sunoco...................0 barrels
Conoco...................0 barrels
Sinclair....................0 barrels
BP/Phillips..............0 barrels
Hess........................0 barrels
ARC0.......................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers.

It's really simple to do.

Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I'm sending this note to about thirty people.

If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!

If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION
PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.

How long would all that take?

If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next eight days!

Tsar 06-28-2006 08:36 AM

ITS ALL CRAP!!! JESUS ****ING CRIST! BY A BYCYCLE AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ****ING GAS.

Tsar 06-28-2006 08:38 AM

and to further prove my point. http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp

Savage_Messiah 06-28-2006 09:01 AM

here's a quick example why that's crap - BP and Amoco have been merged for yeeeears now

bad64chevelle 06-28-2006 09:41 AM

:werd: I was just thinking that!

79CamaroDiva 06-28-2006 09:43 AM

i remember that circulating around my freshman year in college, it was around the end of 2001, beginning of 2002. Other than the snopes thing, its outdated.

Tru2Chevy 06-28-2006 02:19 PM

Ugh. This is such BS.

95% of the gas stations in this state gets gas from one of the few refineries that we have here. My dad's Mobil/Lukoil station gets almost all of it's gas from the Valero refinery. Most of the gas station brands in this country are owned by 3-5 major corporations.

- Justin

V 06-28-2006 02:22 PM

last i heard there were 3 main US gas distributors. mobil/lukoil/exxon/etc... , BP/Amoco/etc... , and Hess/etc...

Tsar 06-28-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokingSS
last i heard there were 3 main US gas distributors. mobil/lukoil/exxon/etc... , BP/Amoco/etc... , and Hess/etc...

:w00t: russians got in there too! :lol:

Tru2Chevy 06-28-2006 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsar
:w00t: russians got in there too! :lol:

Lukoil owns part of the Mobil Brand, but they aren't bringing over their own gas....yet. That's their final plan, to ship over refined fuel from the motherland. Avoid US refineries all together.

- Justin

unstable bob gable 06-28-2006 02:35 PM

If it were only that easy as not buying gas from certain stations...

Tsar 06-28-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Lukoil owns part of the Mobil Brand, but they aren't bringing over their own gas....yet. That's their final plan, to ship over refined fuel from the motherland. Avoid US refineries all together.

- Justin

well i didnt know all that. i just knew that Lukoil is the largest oil company thats all :lol:

V 06-28-2006 02:39 PM

there are lukoil only stations already here in NJ, but they dont accept mobil.exxon cards wtf lol then there are also stations Mobil/exxon with signs saying "lukoil coming soon"

Tsar 06-28-2006 02:40 PM

Lukoil will pwn all. go motherland! i should get a special discount!

Tru2Chevy 06-28-2006 02:41 PM

Lukoil owns *most* Mobil/Exxon stations in NJ and PA. They are switching over the brand names on most of the stations to Lukoil.

- Justin

bad64chevelle 06-28-2006 02:43 PM

yeah theres a **** load of them changing over now.

unstable bob gable 06-28-2006 02:44 PM

Do they sell wodka too? :)

LuvMyF8LWS6 06-28-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
here's a quick example why that's crap - BP and Amoco have been merged for yeeeears now

And Castrol too! ;)

Frosty 06-28-2006 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Lukoil owns *most* Mobil/Exxon stations in NJ and PA. They are switching over the brand names on most of the stations to Lukoil.

- Justin

Yup, we've had 'em for quite a while now.

...and that original post in this thread is funny. I guess everyone believes what they read on the internet lol

Injuneer 06-30-2006 03:50 PM

Lukoil is a totally independant, publicly traded Russian company. In terms of proven oil reserves, it is second only to Exxon/Mobil. Lukoil acquired Getty to gain a toehold in the US market. They have now purchased the Mobil stations on the east coast (which Exxon/Mobil had already sold to ConocoPhilips).

Quote:

LUKOIL Subsidiary Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc. Closes Deal to Acquire Gasoline Stations from ConocoPhillips.

East Meadow, NY, May 21, 2004 …Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of OAO LUKOIL, announced its acquisition of 779 Mobil-branded gasoline stations in New Jersey and Pennsylvania from ConocoPhillips. According to the terms of this transaction, Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc. has acquired 308 Mobil branded fee and lease properties plus contracts to supply an additional 471 Mobil branded locations. Collectively, these sites generate over 1.1 billion gallons of gasoline sales annually and will more than double the amount of Getty's current light product sales in the United States.

Founded in 1991, LUKOIL is one of the world’s largest vertically integrated oil companies and currently ranks second in the world in terms of proven reserves. As a publicly traded company, LUKOIL is the most diversified Russian oil company and the first to have ventured abroad to make a significant commitment to the U.S. market. LUKOIL is Russia's number one petroleum refiner and with this acquisition, has more than 4,700 gasoline stations worldwide and over 2,000 outlets in the United States. It is publicly traded on numerous international stock exchanges and most recently was listed on the London Stock Exchange.

NJSPEEDER 06-30-2006 03:58 PM

all this gas **** cracks me up. does anyone actually think that where the gas comes from has anything at all to do with price?
all of the companies listed that don't use saudi oil charge the same at teh pump as those who do, all of the companies using ethanol that costs much less to refine are charging the same as those who don't.
they know we have no choice but to buy gas. so they will continue to charge us as much as they can get away with. that is the simple truth of any of product on any shelf in any store you have ever visited. the only difference is that you can't get around buying gas the way you can spending money on designer jeans.

NJSPEEDER 06-30-2006 05:05 PM

i forgot to put one more little nugget of knowledge in my post, the companies that don't use arab oil, use south american oil. all of the south american companies and even the good ol' USA are members of OPEC, so all the oil comes out costing the same, no matter where you ship it in from.

rgaynor85 07-07-2006 11:22 AM

but there not saying itll lower price i dont think more so that just dont buy from arab oil companies buyers so were not suporting arabs our enimies, suport other companys, i dont wanna give my money to the enemy

V 07-07-2006 11:26 AM

but the point is, there arent just some companies that buy, basically everyones involved.

Tru2Chevy 07-07-2006 11:36 AM

Yes, Conoco/Phillips and Exxon/Mobil are all part of the same company, but that list says that Conoco/Phillips uses no middle eastern oil, while Exxon/Mobil does.

That takes me back to my previous statement, which is that not every Mobil station gets all of its gas from a Mobil refinery. My dad's Mobil/Lukoil station usually gets their gas from the Valero refinery. They all make deals with each other based on their location, not brand names.

- Justin


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