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maroman88 04-03-2007 07:13 PM

fans wont turn on by themselves
 
cars been gettin really hot and the fans havent been turning on, i grounded out the wire to the coolant temp sensor and they came on and now they wont go off until the car is turned off. sound like a bad coolant sensor or what??

JSPERFORMANCE 04-03-2007 08:33 PM

or fan relay

enRo 04-03-2007 11:29 PM

fan relay, up by the driver side firewall. they sell them at autozone for pretty cheap.

BonzoHansen 04-04-2007 09:20 AM

I'm guessing if he grounded the fan switch and the fan came on, that is the issue. If it were the relay, I might guess it still would not have come on.

maroman88 04-04-2007 11:24 AM

k i was doin some research, there is a fan switch on the front driverside head? that can only be seen from underneath? i grounded out the one thats right under the TB on a TPI i think its a coolant temp sensor

BonzoHansen 04-04-2007 11:41 AM

You should not just ground things for fun. That is how you break things, like ECMs. Does your car have a fan switch, or is it controlled by the ECM? Find a wiring diagram and go from there.

Which car is this?

maroman88 04-04-2007 11:45 AM

91 Z28 5.7L TPI

its controlled by the ECM on TPI cars, i think i was readin about the fan switch for TBI cars my mistake

BonzoHansen 04-04-2007 01:06 PM

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Man, the AutoZone site is FTL for me right. Way too slow. But here is your wiring diagram.

CTS location: Under hood, center, upper engine area, rear of water outlet, mounted in intake manifold

No fan switch in sight.

Based on what you did, there are only so many things it could be. Grounding the CTS (don't do that again) made the fan come on, so to me that eliminates wiring harness issues and the relay. That leaves the CTS or the ECM. Is it throwing a CE light?

All according to this diagram: You have 2 fans, a main one turned on by the ECM, the other turned on via the AC being on or an auxiliary fan switch (where is this located?????). Each fan has its own relay. Does the one fan come on with the AC?

Change the CTS – they are $12. ECM is $100 (all at rockauto.com)

alamantia 04-04-2007 01:07 PM

if i remember correctly that fan switch is in the head, i thought it was on the passenger side though, not sure about that now sitting on my computer at work. I know that sensor for the gauge / idiot light is usualy on the drivers side head between the #1 and 3 cylinders. I remember switching the thermostat in my 91 RS 305 TBI from teh stock 195 to a 180 and buying the fan switch from summit to click the fans on at a lower temp to match the new thermostat. When I did it i noticed that the knock sensor was right below it. Do your fans turn on when you switch the A/C on???

maroman88 04-04-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alamantia (Post 330354)
if i remember correctly that fan switch is in the head, i thought it was on the passenger side though, not sure about that now sitting on my computer at work. I know that sensor for the gauge / idiot light is usualy on the drivers side head between the #1 and 3 cylinders. I remember switching the thermostat in my 91 RS 305 TBI from teh stock 195 to a 180 and buying the fan switch from summit to click the fans on at a lower temp to match the new thermostat. When I did it i noticed that the knock sensor was right below it. Do your fans turn on when you switch the A/C on???

yea on a TBI it is there, on a TPI its on the front of the lower plenum

thanks bonzo, i was workin off of chevythunder.com and got the same info

im guna go try the AC in a little while and get a new coolant temp sensor tomarrow ive changed it in the other camaro b4 and is no big deal

maroman88 04-04-2007 07:24 PM

yup they turn on wit the AC

maroman88 04-07-2007 11:59 AM

k i found my scanner and had a code for the coolant sensor, i changed it and eset the computer and it hasnt come back.

however the temp reading from the computer is about 40* less then what the guage says. i got a temp gun from work and shot the waterneck on the manifold and its reading almost exactly what the computer reads. why are cars a pain in the ass lol

wat the hell

BonzoHansen 04-07-2007 01:32 PM

Better the gauge high then the low, I suppose.

Otherwise, all fixed??

maroman88 04-07-2007 07:39 PM

yea i guess so, the fans did come on when the computer said the temp was at 228* but the freakin guage was pinned lol

BonzoHansen 04-08-2007 04:08 PM

Might be time for a new gauge sender too.

maroman88 04-08-2007 04:19 PM

wheres that located?

BonzoHansen 04-09-2007 10:01 AM

Probably in the side of the head.


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