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chrisfrom nj 04-08-2007 01:44 PM

electrical fire
 
my 91 rs had a eletrical fire today it was running good then all of a sudden there was smoke under the hood and the inside the car if you feel the harness thats under the hood that goes into the car it was hot as hell and smokeing what could cause this

maroman88 04-08-2007 01:58 PM

a short? best bet get a new harness and rewire everything, RS = TBI so the harness is pretty cheap used off ebay and pretty simple to wire up too

chrisfrom nj 04-08-2007 02:05 PM

i might convert the car to carb if i haveto change the harness

chevylover5 04-10-2007 11:42 PM

yo man that sucks about the fire, but you'd rather be safe than sorry...
i know summit and jcw sells painless woring kits far all sorts of intakes and cars, my dad bought one for his '67 fastback and it was a life saver! all the wires were labeled where they go and what they do... check it out. its well worth the money...

V 04-11-2007 01:36 PM

if you do go carb'd its easy to do with whats probably left of the stock harness. But maybe thats just how i feel, I love wiring, its just something i enjoy doing. If you need any advice/help let me know.

BonzoHansen 04-11-2007 02:34 PM

I would research what happened first. Hot wires can be bad grounds (thus overloaded circuits), shorts (to ground, in components, etc.). My 1st car melted the shifter cable – because there was no ground other then the battery to the inner fender. So the shifter cable became the ground and burned up.

What harness got hot? Was it even EFI wiring? Not headlights, etc.? Why didn’t any thing pop (fuse, links, etc.)? I’d determine the cause first, and then decide on a resolution.

chrisfrom nj 04-11-2007 09:32 PM

i found the bad wire today the fuseable link and a lone piece of wire burnt up causeing me to loose power and cause a eletrical fire im going up to gi to look for the wires that hook up to the starter so i can fix my car and get it road worthy

BonzoHansen 04-11-2007 10:27 PM

Why did the wire burn?

chrisfrom nj 04-11-2007 10:36 PM

I HAD THE FANS RUNNING STRAIGHT I THINK THAT WAS THE CAUSE PLUS THERE WAS A PROBLM I HAD WITH THE CAR WHERE SOMETIMES IT HAD POWER AND SOMETIMES NOT IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE FUSEABLE LINK GOING BAD ALLSO I HAVE ANOTHER COMPUTER TO PUT IN IT OUT OF MY OLD 91 FIREBIRD

BonzoHansen 04-11-2007 10:49 PM

Wire the fans correctly.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...c_1995_TOP.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...995_BOTTOM.jpg
If your ECM does not have fan triggers, you can substitue 2 different temp fan switches. The 3 relay setup is a better bet.

Why change the ECM, what does that have to do with anything?

I say this because I have done my share of chasing wiring issues.

chrisfrom nj 04-12-2007 07:42 AM

im hooking the fan up to a toggle switch i have the wires ran allready im running it the same way i ran it on my brothers 88 gta

BonzoHansen 04-12-2007 09:23 AM

Um, ok. Make sure you use heavy gauge wire (like 6) and a toggle that can handle the amperage (30+ amps, probably more). You can use a toggle with relays as well. Then you don't need heavy gauge into the car or a high amp switch.

EFI really likes consistent temps, I would suggest using a more automated setup.

chrisfrom nj 04-13-2007 10:45 AM

the wires under the dash are all melted

Fast92RS 04-13-2007 01:19 PM

Just get a painless harness and rewire the car. alot easier than hacking up a harness from another car

BonzoHansen 04-13-2007 01:31 PM

What part of the dash/what wires? The ECM stuff on the RH side, or the rest of the car on the LH side?

chrisfrom nj 04-13-2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast92RS (Post 333369)
Just get a painless harness and rewire the car. alot easier than hacking up a harness from another car

i might do that which painless wireing kit will i need i want to use the power windows

chrisfrom nj 04-13-2007 04:32 PM

the wires that come into the car that go to the steering column then the wires that go to some computer box the whole harness is melted under the dash

V 04-13-2007 11:28 PM

i have a complete dash, with all wiring intact still, plus i should have the tbi engine wiring as well, from a 91 tbi 305 auto car. i'll PM you with more info and price

chevylover5 04-14-2007 12:33 AM

http://painless.r-catalog.com/pg-lkp/ymm.asp

this is from painless.com, its for the fuel injection type, youd have to toy around with the year or change the harness a lil for carb...

just sumthing to think about
-later

chrisfrom nj 04-14-2007 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 333580)
i have a complete dash, with all wiring intact still, plus i should have the tbi engine wiring as well, from a 91 tbi 305 auto car. i'll PM you with more info and price

thanks paul

chrisfrom nj 04-14-2007 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevylover5 (Post 333613)
http://painless.r-catalog.com/pg-lkp/ymm.asp

this is from painless.com, its for the fuel injection type, youd have to toy around with the year or change the harness a lil for carb...

just sumthing to think about
-later

thanks but it cant display that page when i click on the link

BonzoHansen 04-14-2007 08:51 PM

All they list for 91 Camaro is:
Emission Wire Harness
Fuel Injection Wire Harness
Speed Sensor
Vats Module

http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/index.php

chrisfrom nj 04-15-2007 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 333814)
All they list for 91 Camaro is:
Emission Wire Harness
Fuel Injection Wire Harness
Speed Sensor
Vats Module

http://www.painlessperformance.com/webcatalog/index.php

thanks im looking to get the tbi harness and then convert it or i'll get the race car /street car harness

V 04-17-2007 06:59 PM

PM sent, i found everything, so if you're interested $100, pics are in the PM

chrisfrom nj 04-17-2007 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokingSS (Post 335037)
PM sent, i found everything, so if you're interested $100, pics are in the PM

im intrested i'll be over tomorrow to pick it up


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