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1QWIKBIRD 01-04-2008 11:00 AM

Atco resurfacing.....
 
Going concrete to the 660' mark.......:nod:

http://www.atcorace.com/artman/publi..._index_100.php

Tru2Chevy 01-04-2008 04:59 PM

Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

bubba428 01-04-2008 05:15 PM

well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60' :lol:

NJSPEEDER 01-04-2008 05:26 PM

can't wait to see how it is when they get opened back up for the season.

Tru2Chevy 01-04-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 408545)
well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60' :lol:

Concrete has more grip than asphalt, so it should help everyone get even better times. I'm sure people will be accusing Atco of chopping another 10' or 15' off the length of the track next year ;)

- Justin

SteveR 01-04-2008 05:40 PM

Thats cool. That transition point from concrete to asphalt has to be 100% perfect though. Which national event track is it that has that problem with the concrete to asphalt transition point? Dallas? One of 'em does and they mention it every year lol

1QWIKBIRD 01-04-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 408540)
Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

I was checking to see if they were gonna open this weekend with the forecast supposed to be decent, but I guess it's kinda tough to run if there is no surface to run on:rofl:

Yeah he is definitley putting money back into the track, so you can't fault hi there. Lots of guys would probably pocket the cash and run....

Chris

johnjzjz 01-04-2008 08:42 PM

i dont know if its true but the word is atco has the fastest cars in the country ( the most 7 second dragsters and sedans ) of any other track that race their every week -- maybe but the racing is real you need a 7 to 9 thousands package to go the distance most weeks -- jz

1QWIKBIRD 01-04-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR (Post 408558)
Thats cool. That transition point from concrete to asphalt has to be 100% perfect though. Which national event track is it that has that problem with the concrete to asphalt transition point? Dallas? One of 'em does and they mention it every year lol

Yeah I've heard the same thing and seen it on TV too, the second they hit the transition they loose traction. I think its at Houston? but definitely somewhere in Texas.

79CamaroDiva 01-04-2008 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 408545)
well as long as it actually helps. maybe they'll shave a bit more off the 60' :lol:

since the starting pad is already concrete, i dont think it actually will (i cant tell if they're tearing up what was already concrete, or juts adding more). It'll be interesting to see how it will affect times and consistency though.

NJSPEEDER 01-04-2008 09:03 PM

after going through all that trouble grinding the whole track last winter, i wonder if he will have to grind the first half again to keep it consistent

SteveR 01-04-2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by johnjzjz (Post 408600)
i dont know if its true but the word is atco has the fastest cars in the country ( the most 7 second dragsters and sedans ) of any other track that race their every week -- maybe but the racing is real you need a 7 to 9 thousands package to go the distance most weeks -- jz

Cecil is another possibility. I'm not sure about this year or this past year, but they used to have almost weekly Quick 8, Pro Mod, Outlaw 10.5 and Outlaw Pro Mod races there.

Is E-Town doing the Ultra Quick 8 races every Sunday again this year?

SteveR 01-04-2008 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1QWIKBIRD (Post 408606)
Yeah I've heard the same thing and seen it on TV too, the second they hit the transition they loose traction. I think its at Houston? but definitely somewhere in Texas.

Maybe it's Houston, but you're right, it's definitely in Texas. And both lanes have problems, but one lane is worse than the other because the transition point isn't perfectly strait across the track, it's at a slight angle, making it worse.

79CamaroDiva 01-04-2008 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR (Post 408617)
Cecil is another possibility. I'm not sure about this year or this past year, but they used to have almost weekly Quick 8, Pro Mod, Outlaw 10.5 and Outlaw Pro Mod races there.

Is E-Town doing the Ultra Quick 8 races every Sunday again this year?

i think johns talking about the bracket program there.. and if so, i think he's right about the field being that fast. you've seen it yourself with the tight racing at the mitchell races, thats just how it is there.

keith2717 01-04-2008 09:17 PM

Can't wait to see what happens.

SteveR 01-04-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 408620)
i think johns talking about the bracket program there.. and if so, i think he's right about the field being that fast. you've seen it yourself with the tight racing at the mitchell races, thats just how it is there.

ooo, ok. Yea, the brackets are quick. Does Scotty race at Atco? He was running for E-Town at the bracket finals I think.

79CamaroDiva 01-04-2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveR (Post 408623)
ooo, ok. Yea, the brackets are quick. Does Scotty race at Atco? He was running for E-Town at the bracket finals I think.

he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at :lol:

SteveR 01-04-2008 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 408627)
he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at :lol:

thats so not fair :lol:

NJSPEEDER 01-06-2008 01:11 PM

ran into jamie (the staging lane guy) from atco last night. he said the weather has prevented them pouring yet, hopefully today though. the track will also be reground to ensure it is glass smooth again :)
i have a feeling it will be like last year, where the first week or so the traction will be a little spotty while the rubber builds again. then it will be nice and fast.
didn't really get an explanation of why it needed to be repoured though.
oh well, the sways have the money and they are putting it into the facility for the racers. whatever their reasoning, i like it :drive:

johnjzjz 01-06-2008 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 408924)
ran into jamie (the staging lane guy) from atco last night. he said the weather has prevented them pouring yet, hopefully today though. the track will also be reground to ensure it is glass smooth again :)
i have a feeling it will be like last year, where the first week or so the traction will be a little spotty while the rubber builds again. then it will be nice and fast.
didn't really get an explanation of why it needed to be repoured though.
oh well, the sways have the money and they are putting it into the facility for the racers. whatever their reasoning, i like it :drive:

the high end cars all the tracks get for brackets today are near 1000 HP. slide rule says 2000 pound car 7.40 = 1000 HP+. none of the dragsters are over that weight, and lots of them are faster than that and they are all starting to use computer downloads to give them a track read amongst other stuff. lots of guys were complaining about the transition from concrete to black top, the read outs were showing the chassis's were unloading causing swaying and bouncing soooo i think Joe S decided to move the spot down track so they will be already in second speed when it happens.

if you watch, you will have seen every once in a while a guy lift as if something happened. also most of those cars are 60 footing in under a second like .9xx. the violence of that shot is not so much a thing once the trans shifts -- lots of real neat stuff in the glides have come along to aid in the transition -- the double fluid release dump for reverse in the trans brake leave of these cars / is happening in under 4 tenths of a second completely, and on a dyno the 1 - 2 shift sounds like you hit the case with a 5 pound sledge. it is amazing

jz

bubba428 01-06-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 408627)
he might run both and then just pick whichever one he qualifies no 1 at :lol:

i was joking :lol: but either way I can't wait to get some runs in

Tru2Chevy 01-06-2008 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 409056)
i was joking :lol: but either way I can't wait to get some runs in

Bubba they weren't talking about you at all....

- Justin

Demonicbird00 01-06-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 408540)
Sway sure has been dumping money into that track lately, hasn't he?

- Justin

gee i wonder why........ over booking on event days and only geting 1-3 runs in........ def wasnt like this 4+ yrs ago


its def unbelievable.........but on e other hand..... concrete will equal better traction and better times

-brandon

79CamaroDiva 01-07-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy (Post 409071)
Bubba they weren't talking about you at all....

- Justin

ha. nope. not even close.

bubba428 01-07-2008 06:38 PM

:doh:




Quote:

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva (Post 408613)
since the starting pad is already concrete, i dont think it actually will (i cant tell if they're tearing up what was already concrete, or juts adding more). It'll be interesting to see how it will affect times and consistency though.


I meant to hit that quote...I hit the wrong one


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