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oh one ls1 SS 02-28-2008 03:57 PM

jeep question
 
i know.. i know.. this is a f-body forum but since alot of members have jeeps i decided to post this up. im going to be looking to get a beater in a month or 2 and was wondering if there was anything i should know about while looking. im leaning towards something like http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail...0&aff=national maybe not that exact one but a 03-04. i know to stay away from the V8's but is there anything to watch out for with the i6's? any advise would be helpful. thanks

maroman88 02-28-2008 04:39 PM

my girlfriend has the exact jeep (grand cherokee special edition) in red, paid 14k for it with 36k miles maybe 6 months ago, and its in good shape and no problems yet.
my friend just got an 04 grand cherokee freedom edition for 14k with 38k miles maybe a month ago.

79T/A 02-28-2008 05:01 PM

I can't say enough good things about the I6. I'm still pretty pissed that they decided to axe it. It's got a ton of low end torque and it's reliable. Keep on changing the oil and maintaining it and you could easily get 200k+ miles on it. Don't know much more about the Grands, though.

oh one ls1 SS 02-28-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by maroman88 (Post 424195)
my girlfriend has the exact jeep (grand cherokee special edition) in red, paid 14k for it with 36k miles maybe 6 months ago, and its in good shape and no problems yet.
my friend just got an 04 grand cherokee freedom edition for 14k with 38k miles maybe a month ago.

yea, that one is a little over priced. i know KBB is garbage but it says retail value in excellent condition is 15,250

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Originally Posted by 79T/A (Post 424210)
I can't say enough good things about the I6. I'm still pretty pissed that they decided to axe it. It's got a ton of low end torque and it's reliable. Keep on changing the oil and maintaining it and you could easily get 200k+ miles on it. Don't know much more about the Grands, though.

i heard from alot of people that the I6 is very dependable too thats y im looking to get one. this thing better last 200K... in need to get my money's worth! haha

The Fixer 02-28-2008 06:38 PM

The Grands are pretty good overall. My mom has a '99 (first year of that body style) with the I6, and it's had a few minor issues - door lock solenoids, window regulator, and brakes every 5K miles under warranty. The dealership even put the upgraded '02-up dual-piston calipers on the front and it still would warp the rotors every 5K miles. Since it finally went out of warranty, I changed the rotors to Raybestos and she hasn't had a problem since.

My brother-in-law bought a used '04 with the I6 and it's been pretty good to him. He's put a bunch of miles on it already with no issues. IMO, if you're going to buy one, get a Laredo model with the I6 and regular climate controls. The dual-zone climate controls go bad very frequently (something with the blend doors), and it's an expensive, time-consuming repair from what I've read on Jeepforum. Good luck on the hunt!

trashman01 02-28-2008 06:57 PM

the problem with the blend doors on the dual zone is that the motors are too strong and brake the stop tabs and then the door "pin"(if u wanna call it that) cracks by the motor and the motor will just free-wheel without it moving the door at all. to repair it, u gotta remove the entire dash and since ur in there, its recommended u do all the doors/motors that way 2 weeks later u arent doing the same thing

Ian 02-28-2008 07:08 PM

jeeps are awesome! my 4.0 has 190K on it and it still runs strong. dynoed 133 hp and 208 lb/ft :lol:

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Originally Posted by trashman01 (Post 424250)
the problem with the blend doors on the dual zone is that the motors are too strong and brake the stop tabs and then the door "pin"(if u wanna call it that) cracks by the motor and the motor will just free-wheel without it moving the door at all. to repair it, u gotta remove the entire dash and since ur in there, its recommended u do all the doors/motors that way 2 weeks later u arent doing the same thing

:stupid:

if you take it to a shop, prepare to pay for a lot of labor. it only takes me 2 hours start to finish, but they charge like 5 or 6 hours for it :-?

79CamaroDiva 02-28-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 424254)
jeeps are awesome! my 4.0 has 190K on it and it still runs strong. dynoed 133 hp and 208 lb/ft :lol:



:stupid:

if you take it to a shop, prepare to pay for a lot of labor. it only takes me 2 hours start to finish, but they charge like 5 or 6 hours for it :-?

moral of the story... take it to ian, buy him a case of beer. hell be happy ;)

oh one ls1 SS 02-28-2008 07:30 PM

ian. since you work for jeep.. is there anything i should watch out for with these besides the vent doors breaking? any electrical problems? drive train? anything else?

Tru2Chevy 02-28-2008 11:04 PM

The WJ Grand Cherokees (99-04) are great Jeeps. My wife has an '04 with the 4.7L v8 and the 5 spd auto, and she loves it. We've only had it since July, but it's got over 60k on it now with no issues. I've heard that the 4.7 is also a very reliable motor, and as long as you can keep your foot out of the go pedal, you can get great mileage with it (25+ on the highway). The 4.0 I6 is plenty of motor to get the grand cherokee going though, and that is a wonderful motor.

Check this site out for more info on the 99-04 Grand Cherokees: www.wjjeeps.com

- Justin

qwikz28 02-28-2008 11:14 PM

libertys are horrible on gas! especially for a v6!

Ian 02-29-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS (Post 424258)
ian. since you work for jeep.. is there anything i should watch out for with these besides the vent doors breaking? any electrical problems? drive train? anything else?

the only common problems I see are window regulators and lock solenoids. the 1999-2001's sometimes had a problem with the heads cracking, but anything built after that is much better. blower motor resistors like to crap out every once in a while too. besides all those little things, they're outstanding vehicles.

The Fixer 02-29-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 424309)
libertys are horrible on gas! especially for a v6!

My wife's '03 Liberty averages 15mpg, mostly local around-town stop/go driving. On a straight highway run, it'll turn about 22mpg according to the onboard computer. Not really terrible, considering it weighs 4K lbs - they're friggin' heavy!

I think my bro-in-law's '04 Grand with the 4.0 gets around 22-23mpg highway, and I'm sure he's not easy on the go pedal.

Squirrel 02-29-2008 12:13 PM

I6 put my bone stock jeep in the low 16's

SteveR 02-29-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 424323)
the only common problems I see are window regulators and lock solenoids. the 1999-2001's sometimes had a problem with the heads cracking, but anything built after that is much better. blower motor resistors like to crap out every once in a while too. besides all those little things, they're outstanding vehicles.

what year(s) were the problems for the heat/ac in the Grands? I remember it being a huge PITA since the entire dash had to come out.

Ian 02-29-2008 05:32 PM

99-04 :lol:

its not that bad if you know what you're doing. some of the bolts are pretty well hidden though.

qwikz28 02-29-2008 11:03 PM

ian whats the deal with the early second gen GC brakes?

IROCZBeast 02-29-2008 11:07 PM

I have an '02 Liberty 3.7L V6 5-speed. I love the thing, hasn't given me any problems and handles itself pretty well off-road. Might be something worth looking into.

Ian 03-01-2008 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28 (Post 424519)
ian whats the deal with the early second gen GC brakes?

the had a service bulletin to switch to a newer style caliper for the front brakes. pretty much all of the ones that come through my dealership have it done already.

jims69camaro 03-01-2008 07:33 AM

imo, the cherokee sport is a decent looking ride without all of that added body cladding.

my wife's liberty has the 3.7 v-6 and she gets good mileage. the only thing i changed prior to taking delivery was to add leather seat covers. that added 1k to the cost, but at 15k it was a good price ('02 liberty bought in '04). five years later there are no major problems. i replaced one of the lock solenoids. still running the original brakes (although i think it's about time to look at them), replaced the tires to geolanders with the same specs as factory tires and no worries on ice/snow/whatever. i'm the only one who uses the 4-wheel drive, and i try to engage it once every six months or so to keep things moving/lubricated. one of the few times i bought a car with no headaches.

79T/A 03-01-2008 04:41 PM

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the only common problems I see are window regulators and lock solenoids. the 1999-2001's sometimes had a problem with the heads cracking, but anything built after that is much better. blower motor resistors like to crap out every once in a while too. besides all those little things, they're outstanding vehicles.
You know your business very well, sir. My 2001 was one of the cracked heads. DC made good on it though. Cost me $100 to replace the head. Seen the blower resistor pack problem quite a few times on all makes of Jeep.

Ian 03-01-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 79T/A (Post 424637)
You know your business very well, sir. My 2001 was one of the cracked heads. DC made good on it though. Cost me $100 to replace the head. Seen the blower resistor pack problem quite a few times on all makes of Jeep.

I dont know about calling me sir, I'm not very old :lol:

the auto temp control resistors sometimes melt the connector too. again, an easy fix.

oh one ls1 SS 03-03-2008 12:32 AM

ian!!!! i had a question about the 4 wheel drive in the jeep. my friends mom had one where on the shifter it was 2 wheel drive, 4 part time, 4 full time, and 4 low. on the one i test drove had the quadra-trac II and i asked the salesman about it being that it it only had 4 part time, Neutral, and 4 Lo on it. he said that 4 part time means it is in 2 wheel drive all the time untill the transfer case picks up the tires spinning then puts it in 4 wheel drive. howeveerrrr on http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm it says that "Full time 4WD operation sends power to both the front and rear axles under normal driving conditions and automatically transfers torque to the front as needed" and "Operating Modes: 4WD High, full-time (Sends power to all wheels)." who's lying to me? and is the quadra-tec II a good 4 wheel drive system?

oh one ls1 SS 03-04-2008 08:26 PM

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Tru2Chevy 03-04-2008 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS (Post 425004)
my friends mom had one where on the shifter it was 2 wheel drive, 4 part time, 4 full time, and 4 low.

4 part time is only for off-road / slippery conditions use. If you use it on dry pavement you'll end up hurting the transfer case. 4 full time can be used all the time, no matter the conditions.

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Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS (Post 425004)
on the one i test drove had the quadra-trac II and i asked the salesman about it being that it it only had 4 part time, Neutral, and 4 Lo on it. he said that 4 part time means it is in 2 wheel drive all the time untill the transfer case picks up the tires spinning then puts it in 4 wheel drive.

Are you sure that this wasn't 4 full time / Neutral / 4 Low? That's the setup in my wife's '04 WJ. It's full time 4wd, with a low range. It's always in 4wd.

BTW - I would most likely trust WJJeeps.com over a used car salesman anyday....

- Justin


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