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chevyt454 04-21-2008 09:04 AM

Another example of speed & youth gone wrong
 
http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/inde...580.xml&coll=3

qwikz28 04-21-2008 09:08 AM

:shock: i don't even know what to say about that one.

Knipps 04-21-2008 09:45 AM

:shock: i knew a Figueroa (Brendan) before i moved.. I wonder if they're related
that's crazy..

Saitin 04-21-2008 11:13 AM

all I can say is....


IDIOTS

bubba428 04-21-2008 11:28 AM

holy crap.....maybe ricer wings do work?????

Sucks those kids died but at least the ones that were in the back are ok.

maroman88 04-21-2008 11:54 AM

i saw this on the news the other night, that car was messed up

firehawk1120 04-21-2008 09:01 PM

one way to clean out a bad gene pool...

jims69camaro 04-21-2008 09:31 PM

i was having a discussion the other day about inner city youth. it got started with the statement that common sense isn't so common these days. we wound up all over the place, but to keep it simple for here, it comes down to kids aren't being taught properly by their parents. why were they doing in excess of 100 mph on the Skyway, of all places?

probably because no one told them it was a bad idea.

think about that for a minute...

maroman88 04-21-2008 09:43 PM

parents jusr plop their kids infront of a TV and tell them to watch while they do other things, now throw in video games! the kids never have human contact like going outside and riding a bike, now throw in racing games.... theres your 100mph on the skyway

Knipps 04-21-2008 09:47 PM

Why should parents have to tell their kids it's not smart to do 100 mph?
IMO that's just dumb. if you need to be told that there's more wrong with you

91DropTop 04-21-2008 09:48 PM

that explains why there were 200 kids on my block last night having a service in the park across the street 2 of the kids lived around the corner from me, its a shame but anyone who has been on the skyway knows its not smooth enough to do 60 on forget about 100, esp where it connects to raymond blvd

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 04-21-2008 10:01 PM

Sad....hopefully the kids in the back learn a life lesson out of this. Its sad that the kids in front had to go like they did.

bubba428 04-21-2008 10:07 PM

Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

98tadriver 04-21-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 440418)
Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

jims69camaro 04-22-2008 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 440389)
Why should parents have to tell their kids it's not smart to do 100 mph?
IMO that's just dumb. if you need to be told that there's more wrong with you

exactly my point. they don't have the frame of reference to know that 100 mph on the Skyway is a bad thing. there is so much wrong with these kids, and it all goes right back to the parents not having taught them properly from the beginning. like it was said, the TV-babysitter and then throw in video games and then these kids get their licenses and start hot rodding their cars. they think there is nothing wrong with 100 mph on the Skyway.

i'm just glad they didn't take out any innocents with them. also said in this thread, though quite harsh, what a way to clean out the gene pool...

since the problem is way larger than just this one accident, we don't know what these kids could've been with the proper guidance and guidelines. who knows, they could have contributed something to the world other than a headline that read "2 dead in Skyway accident".

NumberTwo 04-22-2008 10:51 AM

Hopefully the parents are held liable.

Savage_Messiah 04-22-2008 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba428 (Post 440418)
Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98tadriver (Post 440466)
youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

:-D

WildBillyT 04-22-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberTwo (Post 440581)
Hopefully the parents are held liable.

I'm curious.

Why?

madness410 04-22-2008 04:06 PM

that is very unfortunate that there were lives lost...but as the jigsaw killer from saw always says: "the choices are always theres..."

NumberTwo 04-22-2008 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 440674)
I'm curious.

Why?

The driver of the vehicle was 17. He is still a minor. He was also in violation of the NJ provisional license he had. I could be wrong, but the 08 Solara probably wasnt purchased by him unless he paid for it cash being a minor cant sign a legal binding contract alone. The driver was also operating the car at 2AM or so. I dont know about you but when I have kids, until theyre 18 they will have rules and a curfew. Parents know what the provisional license restrictions are and are therefor liable. The situation sucks all around but whats done is done.

Knipps 04-22-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberTwo (Post 440684)
The driver of the vehicle was 17. He is still a minor. He was also in violation of the NJ provisional license he had. I could be wrong, but the 08 Solara probably wasnt purchased by him unless he paid for it cash being a minor cant sign a legal binding contract alone. The driver was also operating the car at 2AM or so. I dont know about you but when I have kids, until theyre 18 they will have rules and a curfew. Parents know what the provisional license restrictions are and are therefor liable. The situation sucks all around but whats done is done.

so the parents are held responsible for the child's free will?
you can give a kid a curfew all you want, but all it takes is one time and unless you're there with them you can't force them to be home at 12am on the dot
meanwhile, who said the kid had the car with permission?

bubba428 04-22-2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98tadriver (Post 440466)
youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

I'm not dead yet!!!!

NumberTwo 04-22-2008 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 440688)
so the parents are held responsible for the child's free will?
you can give a kid a curfew all you want, but all it takes is one time and unless you're there with them you can't force them to be home at 12am on the dot
meanwhile, who said the kid had the car with permission?

Uhh, yeah. The parents are legally held liable for their childs actions hence why they are children. If youre a ****** parent you cant force them but that is another matter. This again goes back to the parents not keeping tabs on their underage child which again, they are legally responsible for. It all boils down to bad parenting.

Knipps 04-22-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NumberTwo (Post 440692)
Uhh, yeah. The parents are legally held liable for their childs actions hence why they are children. If youre a ****** parent you cant force them but that is another matter. This again goes back to the parents not keeping tabs on their underage child which again, they are legally responsible for. It all boils down to bad parenting.

At 17 if someone commits murder they're not going to charge the parents but are 10x more likely to charge that 17 year old as an adult.

NumberTwo 04-22-2008 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Knipps (Post 440694)
At 17 if someone commits murder they're not going to charge the parents but are 10x more likely to charge that 17 year old as an adult.

In that instance yes the child maybe charged as an adult, but the parents will have to deal with a civil suit as well. Weather or not, or what statue a child will be charged has no bearing on the fact that unless the child is emancipated the parents are still LEGALLY responbible for them.


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