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BigAls87Z28 02-19-2009 03:13 AM

Greatest Fighters
 
Cant sleep, so its time for the military channel's lists of greatest wepons. They are talking about the greatest fighters.
Can someone tell me why the F-117 is still considered a fighter plane? Its really just a neat-o plane. Its more of a marvel of technology then anything else. It has no gun, cannot go supersonic, no air to air abilities, and carries two bombs? If anything, its like a concept car. Debuts cool technology that will hopefully be used in future models. Its stealth technologies are obsolete now with aircraft using smoother surfaces and not jagged sharp lines to deflect radar.

Before I was a car nut, I was a plane nut. What is your favorite fighter plane?

Outside of the F22, the F/A-18 Superhornets are hawt!!
I also like the clean and sleek lines of the F-86 Saber. Id love to have one if I was a multi billionare.

TAdan 02-19-2009 07:23 AM

As far as the F-117 goes, the F designation was mainly added to keep it's true role a bit more hidden. Your right it isnt much of a fighter, it would be more realistic if it was called the F/A or just A. They were first used in Grenada, but didnt go public until Desert storm. EIther way it dosent matter much anymore as most of them are retired and in moth balls. I think a couple are still flying doing R&D work.

The Raptor is nice and so is the SuperBug, but I am into warbirds. I love the P-40's specifically the early models.

EchoMirage 02-19-2009 08:04 AM

P-51D mustang

alamantia 02-19-2009 08:09 AM

There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.

LTb1ow 02-19-2009 08:12 AM

Valkyrie.

misterjuice 02-19-2009 08:17 AM

F4 Phantom II. very intimidating looking plane.

Tsar 02-19-2009 08:21 AM

Nothing is better than SR-71. :nod:

LTb1ow 02-19-2009 08:24 AM

I beg to differ.

XB-70 FTW.

Tsar 02-19-2009 08:38 AM

1. Looks like Concorde :lol: - no go.
2. The top speed of Vakyrie doesn't even match the cruising speed of the Blackbird.

But anyways different strokes for different folks. Neither of them are fighter planes though :lol:

LTb1ow 02-19-2009 08:39 AM

I thought the XB was supposed to eclipse the speeds on the SR? That is, until they decided to blow up and all....

Tsar 02-19-2009 08:53 AM

In 1966 XB-70 reached Mach 3.06 and flew at Mach 3 for 32 minutes...
Blackbirds cruising speed was Mach 3.2.

LTb1ow 02-19-2009 08:54 AM

Ah, still looked cooler. ;)

7pointoh 02-19-2009 08:57 AM

I'd say the F-14. Only because it was used as a true interceptor. It can be armed with ground attack stuff but it's role was simply Air to Air.

Tsar 02-19-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 548854)
Ah, still looked cooler. ;)

If you prefer the look of Concorde, sure! :lol:

TAdan 02-19-2009 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy (Post 548849)
I thought the XB was supposed to eclipse the speeds on the SR? That is, until they decided to blow up and all....


The Valkyrie was designed as a high speed bomber. The SR-71/A-12 was a recon aircraft. None of the Valkyries blew up. One is on display at the NMUSAF in Dayton OH, the other was destroyed during a a mid air collision with an F-104. The F-104 was flying a bit too close in formation and lost control because of a vortex coming off of the XB-70's wing.

TAdan 02-19-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by alamantia (Post 548837)
There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.

Thats kind of like taking an F-body out of the junkyard and turning it into a jungle-gym...

88Z-Man 02-19-2009 09:26 AM

F14 and F15 awesome jets
And the Phantom.

Tsar 02-19-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alamantia (Post 548837)
There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.

Like this?

http://english.boisestate.edu/lzaerr/images/axelo.jpg

WildBillyT 02-19-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 7pointoh (Post 548855)
I'd say the F-14. Only because it was used as a true interceptor. It can be armed with ground attack stuff but it's role was simply Air to Air.

I agree. When somebody says "fighter" I think F-14.

SR-71 is awesome but it's no fighter.


Anybody ever go to the Udvar-Hazy museum in Dulles, VA? Coooooool stuff there. Like an SR-71, and the Enola Gay.

jims69camaro 02-19-2009 06:24 PM

MiG-35D

it's nice to be patriotic, but when there is better technology you have to acknowledge it.

Tsar 02-19-2009 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro (Post 549047)
MiG-35D

I'm personally a bigger fan of SU-37 Terminator, that thing looks badass! :lol:

alamantia 02-19-2009 06:40 PM

Fokker Eindecker

HeadlessNorseman 02-19-2009 07:03 PM

I was also into military planes and tanks and crap when i was younger. My favorite has always been the f8 crusader. In the few games ive played with it, it was also my favorite. And there pretty impressive in person too. Last of the gunfighters :)

BigAls87Z28 02-19-2009 07:08 PM

SR-71 was supposed to be a fighter plane for the CIA.

SR-71 is a great plane, but not a fighter.

Mig 29 always looked cool to me, but the F14 and F15 were great fighter interceptors. I love the F14's long distance Pheonix air to air missle.

I also have a soft spot for the A-6...

Tsar 02-19-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 549069)

SR-71 is a great plane, but not a fighter.

Post 9 and 19 :lol:


It's still my favorite aircraft of all time! :mrgreen:


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