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LTb1ow 09-24-2009 06:54 PM

Shielding
 
Round two of fuel pump install tomorrow night.

Was wondering if the shields around the tank are for heat shielding or for protecting the tank from debris?

deadtrend1 09-24-2009 06:57 PM

mainly for heat generated by the exhaust

LTb1ow 09-24-2009 07:01 PM

Ok, I was thinking of just leaving it off and stashing it in case I ever do throw a catback on it again, bad idea?

sweetbmxrider 09-24-2009 07:05 PM

ehhhhhh.......i'd leave it though there are plenty of cars from the factory that don't have anything. they have plastic tanks 99% of the time though

LTb1ow 09-24-2009 07:08 PM

Alright, it will depend on how well the car cooperates.

KirkEvil 09-24-2009 09:06 PM

you dont need that ****. whats the worst that could happen to a tank of gas...


fool.

LTb1ow 09-24-2009 09:08 PM

Have you seen it? Its a flimsy ass sheet of metal... and my gas tank is metal, unlike your plastic POS.

KirkEvil 09-24-2009 09:11 PM

My **** is super high performance polymer. Your gas tank is metal because they ran out of ballast stones.

GP99GT 09-25-2009 04:10 PM

even a flimsy piece of metal will drop the temp significantly

camaro2you 09-25-2009 05:33 PM

Leave it, its there for a reason.

WildBillyT 09-25-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro2you (Post 639015)
Leave it, its there for a reason.

X2. Leave it.

BonzoHansen 09-25-2009 08:58 PM

That flimsy piece of metal creates an air gap which acts as insulation. OE does not put stuff like that in for no reason.

LTb1ow 09-26-2009 12:23 AM

Well that is the least of my worries at the moment. Friggen car.

JerzLT1 09-26-2009 07:24 AM

take it out, your exhaust dumps under the car, my old 96 ran without it for like a year and a half

sweetbmxrider 09-26-2009 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerzLT1 (Post 639092)
take it out, your exhaust dumps under the car, my old 96 ran without it for like a year and a half

:lol: right in front of the tank basically. its definitely all getting trapped in that pocket too

JerzLT1 09-26-2009 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 639119)
:lol: right in front of the tank basically. its definitely all getting trapped in that pocket too

its in front of the rear, the tank is behind the rear... he'll be fine

edit: i dont have it in my current car either come to think of it. my exhaust also dumps before the rear axle

sweetbmxrider 09-26-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerzLT1 (Post 639158)
its in front of the rear, the tank is behind the rear... he'll be fine

edit: i dont have it in my current car either come to think of it. my exhaust also dumps before the rear axle

i know what you are saying but just think if you are stopped at a light idling at 1k, heat is gunna go up. up into the tank area. just stating physics here.

JerzLT1 09-26-2009 07:21 PM

heat will also go around the sheild and still be on the tank, just leave it off since you change your FP so often lol

sweetbmxrider 09-27-2009 11:11 AM

:rofl:

LTb1ow 09-27-2009 12:13 PM

I doubt exhaust gases will be able to significantly change the temperature of 10 gallons of gas in the time spent idling at a light.

sweetbmxrider 09-27-2009 02:33 PM

only way to find out is to stick a thermometer in there!

BonzoHansen 09-27-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 639362)
I doubt exhaust gases will be able to significantly change the temperature of 10 gallons of gas in the time spent idling at a light.

I do know a lot of guys with EFI setups on Power Tour a few years ago were having problems with vapor lock after a few hours of driving. The fuel in the lines was getting heated along its path and and the hotter fuel returning to the tank heated the gas in the tank and causing vapor lock issues. So maybe GM had a reason to go to dead-headed systems.

So my point it maybe professional engineers know more than the average guy does. But then again I'm not smarter than a GM engineer like you folks are.

LTb1ow 09-27-2009 02:58 PM

Well, my rebuke to that one...

Ever run LTs on a 4th gen? Yea... if you are worried about this, don't look at a 4th gen driver side LT.... fuel lines run right over the collector/Y pipe.

But, yea, the shields will go back on next weekend or at least before the Circus Ole meet, so no need to worry about your car being blown up in a 4th gen fire ball. ;)

WildBillyT 09-27-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 639388)
I do know a lot of guys with EFI setups on Power Tour a few years ago were having problems with vapor lock after a few hours of driving. The fuel in the lines was getting heated along its path and and the hotter fuel returning to the tank heated the gas in the tank and causing vapor lock issues. So maybe GM had a reason to go to dead-headed systems.

So my point it maybe professional engineers know more than the average guy does. But then again I'm not smarter than a GM engineer like you folks are.

If something is on the car, chances are there is a reason GM put it there. Unless you are running a secondary (non daily) car in different operating conditions than a daily driver you should put extra thought in removing something before you do. Why dick around with something when you have no legit reason to dump it? Anytime you change something you need to be prepared for possible consequences.

Example: I love it when guys rip the A/C out of their rides for what, (rounding up) 10 hp and 100 lbs? That's great, because on the drive back and forth to work and school you need that extra power... LMAO. Half the time the car won't even get above 4000 RPM the whole day, nowhere near the engine's power peak. But in the meantime, you get to sweat all summer.

LTb1ow 09-27-2009 05:16 PM

Yea, no need to get worked up guys, LOL, the shields are going back on next chance I get.

And AC is over rated Bill. ;)


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