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Anti_Rice_Guy 07-19-2010 10:44 AM

G8 GT Tails illegal in MD?
 
http://jalopnik.com/5589270/maryland...lights-illegal

Woah.

Mike 07-19-2010 10:53 AM

if you read the comments it seems his taillights are pretty far from stock...

sweetbmxrider 07-19-2010 10:55 AM

:rofl: STOP! my head is going to explode!!!!!!!!!!

JerzLT1 07-19-2010 10:57 AM

read the comments. they were modified tail lights, not bone stock

CHRIS67 07-19-2010 11:04 AM

Check out the pic. They are completely blacked out!

T69SS 07-19-2010 11:09 AM

Yea the comments really clear things up.

Whiplash Performance 07-19-2010 11:54 AM

Somebody changed the story a lot.

Anti_Rice_Guy 07-19-2010 12:27 PM

Right, but how'd he get all this "evidence" saying they were stock....that BS as well? I had higher hopes in jalopnik.

Mike 07-19-2010 12:39 PM

pictures of when the car was stock, a quick swap, etc...

BurninrubberGT 07-19-2010 02:28 PM

he didnt have the tinted tails on when he got the ticket
they were all stock except the chrome ring was painted black

so yes, they werent 100% oem, but they were close and the judge said she didnt even care if they were oem, they were illegal in her state :lol:

BigAls87Z28 07-20-2010 12:00 AM

The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.

Mike 07-20-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 717262)
The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.

its not regardless of what he had on the car, the judge wouldnt even know what a g8 is if he didnt go in there fighting his ass off to get his modified light ticket knocked down...

greenformula92 07-20-2010 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 717262)
The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.

thats b/s...how can lights approved by DOT be illegal?

WildBillyT 07-20-2010 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blk95formula (Post 717287)
thats b/s...how can lights approved by DOT be illegal?

They can be illegal because local governments can create their own local laws on top of federal ones.

Ridiculous, yes, in some cases. Such as IF this is true about the taillights, or the "wacky laws" seen here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473971,00.html

sweetbmxrider 07-20-2010 10:12 AM

but if you fought it to supreme court, federal law > municipal law

like when feds and dea bust pot smokers in cali :nod:

BigAls87Z28 07-20-2010 10:56 AM

Federal law always trumps state law, end of story. While his tail lights might or might not be legal, others with stock tail lights could fight this to federal court in which it would be thrown out as soon as they show the DOT badge on the tail lights.

Think of how many cars also have tail lights in similar fasion to the G8? Altima, Prius, Hyrbid Camry, Merc Mountainer, and a host of few other cars.

Mike 07-20-2010 11:17 AM

no, federal law is the minimum standard that a state can meet, if a state wants to be stricter than the feds, that is accepted practice.

WildBillyT 07-20-2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrrmike (Post 717308)
no, federal law is the minimum standard that a state can meet, if a state wants to be stricter than the feds, that is accepted practice.

Yup. This was my point above- laws on top of federal. The pecking order is

Federal
State
County
Township

etc.

sweetbmxrider 07-20-2010 01:44 PM

so then why is federal court the highest court of law?


also, how come people with lexus suv's like the rx and crap don't get stopped daily?

http://www.mercedes-lease.com/photos...us-RX-330.jpeg

WildBillyT 07-20-2010 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider (Post 717331)
so then why is federal court the highest court of law?


What else would there be? "Earth" doesn't have a set of laws, other than gravity and maybe a few others. Federal court is there to protect federal laws.

Again- lower levels of government can have stricter laws on top of federal ones, but they can't be more lenient.

LTb1ow 07-20-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 717334)
What else would there be? "Earth" doesn't have a set of laws, other than gravity and maybe a few others. Federal court is there to protect federal laws.

Again- lower levels of government can have stricter laws on top of federal ones, but they can't be more lenient.

What about states that do not test emissions? Isn't that more lenient that the federal clean air act?

WildBillyT 07-20-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 717337)
What about states that do not test emissions? Isn't that more lenient that the federal clean air act?

No. That is a technicality. People who live in those states still live in the United States so they are required to abide by federal laws like the clean air act. Which is why removing a cat for anything other than replacement is technically illegal.

States that do not test are not saying it's OK, they are just leaving enforcement up to the feds.

WildBillyT 07-20-2010 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LTs1ow (Post 717345)
Well, if you wanna get into this whole state vs feds... why is it that the Federal govt is suing the state of AZ over a more strict approach to a federal law?

Non political of course. :lol:

I do not know enough about the issue to really comment. Gun to my head I'd guess that it violates some sort of federal legislation.

Frosty 07-20-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 717344)
No. That is a technicality. People who live in those states still live in the United States so they are required to abide by federal laws like the clean air act. Which is why removing a cat for anything other than replacement is technically illegal.

States that do not test are not saying it's OK, they are just leaving enforcement up to the feds.

Exactly. Removing your catalytic converter is still violates federal law.

LTb1ow 07-20-2010 04:42 PM

WBT, you are too quick. :lol:


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