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NJ Torque 05-29-2014 05:07 PM

GM High Tech Performance and other mags to be disco'd
 
Popular Hot Rodding, Rod and Custom, High Performance Pontiac, Custom Classic Trucks, 4 Wheel Drive, Mud Life, 5.0 Mustang, Modified Mustangs, Camaro Performers, GMHTP, Import Tuner, Honda Tuning all got cut

:shock::shock::shock:

Blackbirdws6 05-29-2014 06:11 PM

Wow. I really enjoyed reading GMHTP.

NastyEllEssWon 05-29-2014 06:12 PM

makes sense if theyre cutting the paper mags and sticking with the websites. if the websites are getting cut too i wonder how much the url's will be auctioned for :D

Featherburner 05-29-2014 06:16 PM

Two of the three magazines that I still get got cut. High Performance Pontiac and GMHTP. Damnit!

Paul Huryk 05-29-2014 06:16 PM

JFC - I get 1/2 of those magazines.

I hope they give me a refund for all the issues I have in que. Bastids....

BonzoHansen 05-29-2014 07:43 PM

I used to get gmhtp but it seemed like the same thing month after month. I still get phr but it has got quite thin recently.

Damn it camaro performers too

edpontiac91 05-29-2014 08:07 PM

High Performance Pontiac magazine is NO MORE? Just when I get an article in there, it goes belly-up. Man, my bad luck kills everything. Anybody need DIRTY DEEDS DONE DIRT CHEAP! Sorry AC/DC.:axe:

coolmanvette75 05-29-2014 08:45 PM

Really does suck, but this is the result of the free internet publications taking over. It's a shame because GMHTP was something I really enjoyed reading as it was one of the only GM mags that stayed relevant with what is happening now (new products, technology, etc).

ar0ck 05-30-2014 12:16 AM

I feel like the only one who isn't fazed by it. The quality and quantity of useful tech articles in recent years has turned into, "Hey lets buy the most expensive part, and slap it on our perfectly new/fresh car" I used to subscribe a few years ago when they put out useful tech articles on 3rd gens, after that I just felt none of the articles really applied to what I was doing or working on at the time.

NJSPEEDER 05-30-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 905163)
I feel like the only one who isn't fazed by it. The quality and quantity of useful tech articles in recent years has turned into, "Hey lets buy the most expensive part, and slap it on our perfectly new/fresh car" .

This = truth

its the same reason I stopped watching Powerblock or whatever they are calling it now. Even the budget builds involve $25k of parts and $50k of shop equipment.

High Performance Pontiac was always good for an article or two about a rare original/restored car or cars that people had owned and built over decades. That stuff is interesting but not enough to support a monthly.

-Tim

WildBillyT 05-30-2014 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 905163)
I feel like the only one who isn't fazed by it. The quality and quantity of useful tech articles in recent years has turned into, "Hey lets buy the most expensive part, and slap it on our perfectly new/fresh car" I used to subscribe a few years ago when they put out useful tech articles on 3rd gens, after that I just felt none of the articles really applied to what I was doing or working on at the time.

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 905165)
This = truth

its the same reason I stopped watching Powerblock or whatever they are calling it now. Even the budget builds involve $25k of parts and $50k of shop equipment.

High Performance Pontiac was always good for an article or two about a rare original/restored car or cars that people had owned and built over decades. That stuff is interesting but not enough to support a monthly.

-Tim

Likewise. I stopped subscribing to any of them a while back, and what finally killed it for me is when I saw the same article published in 3 different magazines in 3 different months.

greenformula92 05-30-2014 12:46 PM

So are us guys who are subscribed for a while yet going to get a refund or are we screwed

Mike 05-30-2014 01:18 PM

Yeah the last year plus that I got gmhtp each issue was exactly the same, also 60% ads.

They did exactly one article on trailblazer ss in the 9 years the truck has been out. Just cover to cover 5th gen and c6 stuff

NJSPEEDER 05-30-2014 01:41 PM

When GMHTP started it was just called High Tech Performance. In the early days it was basically wall to wall tech articles without being brand exclusive, even a few articles on 4 and 6 cyls. Back then it was a magazine that I really looked forward to each new issue. Other than the LT1 bolt on car shootout (starring ProjectZ28 as a judge/inspector) it was a steady slide down hill. Only covering a small family of small blocks isn't anything to base a monthly on.

-Tim

NastyEllEssWon 05-31-2014 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER (Post 905170)
When GMHTP started it was just called High Tech Performance. In the early days it was basically wall to wall tech articles without being brand exclusive, even a few articles on 4 and 6 cyls. Back then it was a magazine that I really looked forward to each new issue. Other than the LT1 bolt on car shootout (starring ProjectZ28 as a judge/inspector) it was a steady slide down hill. Only covering a small family of small blocks isn't anything to base a monthly on.

-Tim




not to mention that online publications are cheaper & easier to maintain. They still charge for the ad space they sell on their websites just the same as they sell ad space in their printed media. Only difference is its easier to cater to a niche small crowd and still be cost effective. Especially since they wont have to send out a monthly rag chock full of ads that barely pay for the paper and mailing fees.

tldr = websites offer little overhead & larger ad space profit margins than magazines anymore.

Paul Huryk 06-01-2014 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 905181)
not to mention that online publications are cheaper & easier to maintain. They still charge for the ad space they sell on their websites just the same as they sell ad space in their printed media. Only difference is its easier to cater to a niche small crowd and still be cost effective. Especially since they wont have to send out a monthly rag chock full of ads that barely pay for the paper and mailing fees.

tldr = websites offer little overhead & larger ad space profit margins than magazines anymore.

Problem is that most people won't pay the same for a web only publication as they would a print magazine - even with more content - I know I won't. Not to mention the advertising cost has to go do for vendors in the same manner. Now if the reduction in cost for not printing outweighs the decrease in revenue from being online only, I can see it working. If not, then bad decisions...

I was never impressed with any of the car mags online presence. As an example, the GMHTP message board is pretty much DOA.

1320B4U 06-01-2014 09:23 AM

^ I agree...plus you have the ability w/hardprint to save/bookmark and archive those tidbits you want to revisit later on...I just view tangible articles easier for referencing.


..plus my bathroom gets horrible wifi signal, so print does it for me.

WildBillyT 06-01-2014 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon (Post 905181)
not to mention that online publications are cheaper & easier to maintain. They still charge for the ad space they sell on their websites just the same as they sell ad space in their printed media. Only difference is its easier to cater to a niche small crowd and still be cost effective. Especially since they wont have to send out a monthly rag chock full of ads that barely pay for the paper and mailing fees.

tldr = websites offer little overhead & larger ad space profit margins than magazines anymore.

Ad blindness is not as prevalent in print, and you can't adblockplus a magazine.

Web ads might be cheaper but their effectiveness is pitiful in most cases.

BigAls87Z28 06-03-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ar0ck (Post 905163)
I feel like the only one who isn't fazed by it. The quality and quantity of useful tech articles in recent years has turned into, "Hey lets buy the most expensive part, and slap it on our perfectly new/fresh car" I used to subscribe a few years ago when they put out useful tech articles on 3rd gens, after that I just felt none of the articles really applied to what I was doing or working on at the time.

Nothing for nothing, but that's what GMHTPM has been since the dawn of the LS1.
I guess once new tech rolls out onto the scene, it's not longer "high tech" enough to be covered by them.
Oh well. Only issue I have purchased from the in the last five years was the one Brian was in.

ar0ck 06-03-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 905266)
Nothing for nothing, but that's what GMHTPM has been since the dawn of the LS1.
I guess once new tech rolls out onto the scene, it's not longer "high tech" enough to be covered by them.
Oh well. Only issue I have purchased from the in the last five years was the one Brian was in.

When I first got into the game, the whole reason I subscribed to them for a year was because they ran a 4-5 magazine spread on DIY upgrades for 3rd gens, this was probably back in 2002-2003.

Blackbirdws6 06-03-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28 (Post 905266)
Only issue I have purchased from the in the last five years was the one Brian was in.

:cheers:

ThoR294 06-04-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6 (Post 905274)
:cheers:

I don't have a copy of that one :| lol

Tru2Chevy 06-04-2014 10:16 AM

Sucks that so many are getting cut, but they have all pretty much gone down hill. I just let my 15+ year subscription to Chevy High Performance lapse a few months ago. Even the $10-12 renewal deals just aren't worth having most of them sit around after I spend 45 seconds flipping through ads and a bunch of projects I'd have to hit the lottery twice to afford.

- Justin

Blackbirdws6 06-04-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoR294 (Post 905287)
I don't have a copy of that one :| lol

I have a box of extras :)

WayFast84 06-04-2014 12:52 PM

I'm mixed. All though I wasn't a subscriber I did occasionally get them. I did notice that many of the articles were about cars that were popular on forums and you would basically know most of the information about it. Occasionally they did some cool shootouts with GM crate motors and articles about new tech but I think the problem is that GM hasn't really made anything new that is affordable to an average car guy and the market has been topped out for these cars for a while.


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