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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82
What a funny story. That Jesse (aka Ski_down_it) is a complete moron. He's blown up a couple members engines, his engine, and Paul's 1st motor. I've read some of those threads and it makes me feel good all over. All these "mail order tuners" competing against each other and then there's kvu, a guy that isn't all that knowledgable but at least knows that a tune should be done hands on. These guys just have too much money and not enough time... proof is where there are threads popping up where they're comparing different mail order tunes against each other. Oh, and Jesse's chip came in last... again, hahaha what a **** up.
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That link just brings up a generic tuning forum title page there, but if it's the story I think it is (where he and Alvin from PCMforless get into it a bit) then I know the one where you're talking of. Alvin called that guy out a few weeks ago because this dude set up a tune for a guy whom Alvin subsequently tuned, and Alvin compared the two .bin files. The one guys stuff had almost no changes, and the "emissions chip" that was sent was the exact same. Alvin called him out big time.
Your statement about mail order tunes I feel is generic and uneducated. Don't take offense to that please, it's just how I feel. I've personally worked with Alvin and Bryan, the two PCMForLess guys, and their mail order tunes are probably some of the closest to optimal tunes you'll ever find. Both of them have gigantic databases of files with all sorts of combinations they've done in the past, and many of those are dyno tunes that they've done in person. Heck, I personally watched Alvin upload a baseline tune into a CC306/stock head car just a few weeks ago, and make ONE dyno pull. It was spot on. Made 2 more pulls to be sure. No changes. Even when I had my head/cam package put on my car two summers ago, the tune was almost nailed on the first shot. Just needed about 3% fuel up top. If that's not well worth it compared to paying the $500 it would cost around here for a dyno tune, then I don't know what is.
Your implication that a mail order tune is crap is unfounded. Granted a dyno tune you would be able to eek every last bit of HP out of the car, but 9 times out of 10 it's not going to be much. I guess my point is that these guys (that I'm speaking of at least) have been doing this for a LONG time and aren't just coming up with changes on the fly for each tune request that comes in.