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Old 06-17-2005, 02:57 AM   #15
skorpion317
 
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Originally Posted by nj85z28
Is anyone here actually a member of some sort of Union? If you are, then you should be just as pissed as I am for some of these comments. Unions were created to keep fair wages and to make sure benefits are paid, without them this country would not be what it was and what it is today. We have an Anti-Union President, and all of his lackeys would love nothing more than to see Unions disapear. It is a fact that since his first term, major construction has almost halted all together in the states with money or brains, including NY and NJ.

Without even realizing it, you deal with Union members everyday. How would you like it if their were no standards when you bought something from the supermarket? Places without unions are proven to have lower saftey and health standards. You be the judge, Blame the Unions, who kept this country together, or blame the real problem, the government trying to shut them down.
Unions aren't always good things.

I've been in several. Unions do indeed try to make workplaces safer, and can help you out if you get hurt on the job.

as far as wages go, i haven't seen too many unions trying to fight for wage increases. starting at $7/hour, with a 10-cent raise after 6 months is hardly ideal.

a lot of unions today have taken some things over the top. it's no wonder that Americans are losing a ton of jobs everyday. As Tim said, what incentive is there for a comapny to pay a ton of money to workers in the U.S. when they can just go somewhere else where labor is cheaper? sure, it benefits the worker while he's working, but what good is a union when you're unemployed?

the solution to the problem isn't easy. some unions need to seriously cut back on their standards and demands. as far as safety goes, that should be a #1 priority. but certain things, like wide-ranging medical benefits, should be cut down. if you've got a serious medical problem, fine. but if you're guaranteed 12 free visits to a chiropracter every year, if you don't need one, that's an unneeded cost.

my point is, unions do both good and bad. right now, IMO, they're not helping out. the costs of benefits and such have spiraled out of control, and it's hurting companies, who in turn downsize to cut costs. If the unions really want to help out the American worker, they'll have to make some sacrifices.
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