And those headers aren't even coated so you would still have issues with engine compartment heat! As for the catted y-pipe, I will have a catted y-pipe shortly and it will be less than half what they charge. I think he just needs to come up with a good game plan on what he wants to accomplish and then get some heads together to figure out the best "package" of parts. I know you're laughing at their charge for programming Bill!