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ah pass away, i was #1 way too long
as for my pontiac comment.. i was looking at a '04 grand prix GT2(the GTP i went for had a blown trans) but the '04 GP was around 16k... and the salesman came back to me with a quote of 384 for 72 months WTF, i grabbed his calculator and that worked out to like 27,468. My gf said i got loud and scared the young salesman. that pissed me off, qouting my 11k over the price and that was even without a credit check or anything.
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