some things that i just gotta say..
matt, first off i never meant to bash you in any way, i started out by just playing devils advocate and having you see all the other parts needed to get the setup together. Im sure many members, myself included, are happy you have your mind made up about an engine combo because now progress can be made. My only concern is that what might be a "budget" to others may be slightly out of reach for the beginner still.
Hardline, it seems you took everything stricly to heart. you may love you 406 and thats fine and i admit i dont know the first thing about putting vortecs on an older motor. Hence why i said about looking into pushrods and stuff, i bet you didnt know LS1s and LS6s have different length pushrods. I was actually trying to help him out with some creative criticism. Also, if you care to look back earlier in the thread, not once did matt mention he was actually in touch with dirt R. Had that been said, perhaps everything would have gone different. No offense to matt, but in the past hes changed his mind alot, and im sure i speak for others when i say i thought he just copied parts off the guys site or something. Now that it comes out he was actually talking to him, thats fine. BUT dirt R. is still running quite a different setup than matt will have for a long time and he needs to understand that a built suspension, 3000 stall, 4.56 gears and all will make a car perform a whole lot different than a stock setup 84 firebird. Ok so he will upgrade in the future, thats also fine, but he needs to realize 11's are not gonna happen with just a motor. You seemed to jump on me first in this thread when i mentioned about new pushrods or rockers and then i made a comment that its a small lift compared to my cam, well that was basically a joke, haha get it, besides my cam lift is .603/.609 anyway. Ive helped MANY members out from this site and many other car people, f body or not who arent on here, so don't you or dirt judge me on that. Finally, you say ported polished your own heads, soemthign i dont think matt is capable of yet, but then you also said you dynoed your setup on a computer dyno.. besides the fact i dont trust those, i assume you also flowtested your heads after the work in order to enter the info into the comp. the head work can vary alot from person to person if its done at home, so comparing stuff like that can(not always) be misleading. Stuff like that does matter and all info needs to be stated when posted here in a public forum, because other members, ive seen it on other boards too alot, will think everything is clear cut and simple, and then dont get it when they dont have the eaxct same results.
In closing, i dont consider one persons setup a "proven combo". you could build 10 seperate "budget" engines and garunteed youd get different results with each. If Matt wants to do this engine setup, thats great and i'll still try to offer any possible advice i could. but my main point is sometimes the cheap way isnt always the best, spending a few bucks more here and there will always pay off in the long run.
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