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Old 02-13-2007, 01:12 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by Tsar View Post
Rules don't apply to people in power, you should've learned that from politics.

so far rule number one seems to be: Don't argue with anyone from SS squad otherwise your post will get deleted.
Tsar, do you have anything constructive to add to this discussion? You certainly seem intelligent enough to engage in a useful dialog regarding the topic, yet to my knowledge you have not. Regardless of whether I agree with it, at least j0n offered up some actual constructive criticism involving the costs of the club.

Back on topic. So, what exactly are these ‘nazi’ rules you all speak of, and are the now oft quoted ‘good points’ really that good?

*You’re being asked not to use language most people would not use in front of their mothers or grandmothers. Is your vocabulary so stunted that without the use of ‘cuss’ words, you would have no ability to express yourself in writing? Are you that verbally challenged? I’d like to note that some of our verbally challenged members are often the first to jump on other members with perceived communication deficiencies, such as spelling & grammar or knowledge shortfalls.

*You are being asked not to attack other members, no matter how stupid you feel the post is. Just ignoring those posts would be too hard, I suppose? Or if it a technical post, is it that hard to disagree in a civil manner? Does the ‘handful of ancient members’ feel it is their duty to police the club and weed out the members they deem ‘undesirable’? Based on my experience here, it appears so. Why is it that when someone voices a different opinion, they are crybabies? I’d like to note that the group that enjoys doling out said punishment is rather quick to call other people Nazis. I find humor in this obviously absurd juxtaposition of thoughts and actions.

What else, did I miss anything? Oh yeah, (only) admins & mods are hypocrites. Right.

Last I looked, no one has any inherent rights to be here, nor are they forced to be here. It is a personal decision. The sense of entitlement I get out of this general topic (not just this thread) is overwhelming and distasteful. No one is entitled to anything. Everything has a cost – be it money and/or time. By time I mean helping with events, building the club, and conducting yourself in a manner that is within club guidelines - guidelines members are asked to agree with before they can move forward.

So, based on all this, is this a growing car club for everybody, or is it a social clique for a small group that will let you in only if they feel you are worthy?

My hope is that it is a car club, and one wants to cast as wide a member net as possible. It can only benefit everyone. A wider active member base will make it easier for the club to support itself, such as this website, events, etc. Plus more members means more personal opportunities. From help with the car, to borrowing tools, maybe even help in a job search. I laughed when people were complaining about race drivers who got their job because of who they know, because that is how life is. You can either chose to know more people or seclude yourself. You never know who knows whom. Just because of experience, I’m not sure some of the younger guys know the real value of true ‘networking’ – not MySpace networking.

In order to continue moving in that direction, the message board, which is the club’s primary public face, needs to go a bit more mainstream. I don’t see anything being asked of a member that is not asked for at many other car sites that cater to a wide audience. You can choose to be a contributing member or not – it is your money and/or time. Your choice. If you do not want to contribute either, then perhaps you need to find another place on the web to hang your entitled hat.

I look forward to reading added constructive comments regarding this topic.

(one lunch hour down the tubes…)
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