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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

bonds hits against worse pitching than aaron, bonds has a lower career batting average than aaron, and bonds has 800 fewer career hits than aaron with no hopes of ever catching up.
him walking a lot says more about who is hitting behind him or who got on base before him than what he is doing at the plate. if there is a weak hitter behind a power hitter, he will earn walks, if there is a guy who hits for extra bases a lot or steal a lot of bases in front of a power hitter, he will get walked a lot. getting walks isn't anything to brag about in the full scope of the game.
was bonds a good player, yes. is he now, no. with a live ball and thin major league pitching he is hitting home runs. hank aaron did it his whole career against some of the best to ever pick up a ball. not saying there aren't good pitchers now, just that they are spread across a lot more teams than they were in the 50 's and 60's when aaron was putting up the number.
barry also has driven in far fewer game winning runs than aaron did, forget the exact numbers but they talked about it on WFAN this morning. he hits solo shots and pop ups, swinging for the fence 24/7 is hardly the mark of a great hitter.

if you think cal was a joke than you really need to brush up on the game. how many people do you know of that get elected as a write in to the all star team a year after they retired? he is the one and only in baseball history to do that. he kept himself healthy and played through injuries when he had to. he is a member of the 3000 hit club, won the MVP twice, was selected to the all star team every season of his career, was rookie of the year in 1982, won 2 gold gloves and had a 440 post season batting average. oh, and that little thing about playing more consecutive games than anyone else in major league history, barry never played every game of a season in his whole career.

consistant performance over time, that is greatness. sticking around to break a record and skipping games whenever you don't feel like trying to help the team is just weak.

first of...Cal is one of the greatest players to play the game...EVER! His record for most consecutive games played will never even come close to being broken...especially with players like today...

Now back to Bonds for a sec...he is actually about toe reach two more milestones...he is 84 his away from 3000(probably won't happen this season) and he is 17 RBIs away from 2000, which would make him only the second ever to do that...bottom line, after all is said and done, he is gonna be a first ballot HOFer...plain and simple...