[EchoMirage]

and just what kind of SKILLSET do you think youre going to get out of someone whos making $10/hr?? if you think the build quality of cars today are low, (which i dont) just imagine what they would be like if some jerkoff was making them for a whole $10/hr, barely making $300 a week. do you think he'd care if every single nut and bolt was torqued properly? do you think he'd care to see that threadlock was applied in the right spots? or that interior parts fit correctly, motors assembled within tolerance, wires connected right, etc etc?? the yugo was made by non-union labor. dont forget that. for someone making that little money, hes not going to give a **** if he does his job right. and if he gets fired.....so what, it was only a $10 job. theyll hire the next guy, who will be just as big of a bag of **** as the last one. do you really think that ONLY unions have people standing around all day? what do you do for a living? ive had plenty of jobs.....all non union......where half the time we stood around, waiting for this, or hiding from that, etc. talk to paul, smokingSS. he told us at the meet that he MIGHT do one hour of 'work' throughout his entire day.......in the ARMY. thats where YOUR TAX DOLLARS are going. you want to beat a drum, go show up there and tell them to find a broom and keep busy.

just because maybe you saw some people slacking off or taking advantage of free time doesnt mean EVERY union does it. many, many union men take pride in thier work, including me and alot of guys i work with. i have personally seen, first hand, the differance in quality of work between scab and union. ive had to go and FIX the things scabs have screwed up before. theyre not trained. they dont go through any kind of schooling or apprenticeship program. theyre not going to care if they lose their job, because anyone can get a $10/hr job. you think that goes the same for someone making UAW wages? he making money, benefits, retirement, plans for the future. he WILL do a good job because he doesnt want to lose the job he has.

you want lower priced labor. you want mexicans from under the fence? some punk kind fresh out of highschool who just barely works to have money for getting drunk or stoned? one of the first things hitler and stalin did once in power was to dissolve unions. is that the kind of thinking youre coming from? no matter what job you have now, there is NOTHING keeping your boss or employer from firing your ass and bringing in a mexican for $5/hr, give him a training video to watch, and send him off. i tell the same to my friend who works for seimens. no matter what training, degrees, experience he has, there is nothing guaranteeing his job from going to someone who will work for less. he has no say, no voice in the work force. the same goes for a guy i went to college with. hes now a surveyor. there are union and non union surveyors. he was recently liscened. so, he wanted more money, and threatened to quit if he didnt get it. his boss gave it to him.......you know why? because if he didnt, he could walk right out the door and join the surveyors union and make the same money with better conditions. if there was no surveyors union, looking in from the outside, his boss would have told him to go screw, and he'd find somone else willing to work for less money.