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Frosty · 07-30-2008, 03:54 PM

Dude we CAN'T build new refineries, the EPA laws don't allow it, hell the energy companies are still upgrading just to meet the new EPA standards(ExxonMobil just spent $450 million in Joliet, IL). There are other refineries that are in the same situation.

We are NOT in the mess because we're stuck on oil, we're stuck on FOREIGN oil.

To just snap a finger and switch to a different fuel is suicide. It's something that needs to gradually happen. We have an abundant amount of fossil energy here, why not use it?

Like I said a million other times though, there's NO reason why we can't do it ALL. Drill, build refineries, go nuclear, invest in renewable sources. To be on one side of the fence on either side is flat out ignorant(not saying you are_.

How about the Dems being dead set against pausing the fed gas tax yet not a single one of them will be paying it in Denver at the DNC? Pretty f'in ignorant, none of these politicians care, they get their gas cards and their 6 figure salaries, they're not impacted by these prices. They'd rather push whatever agenda they won't not matter how ridiculous it is. There so much red tape that even the alternative idea will take DECADES to become mainstream. There is no magic wand that will drop these prices tomorrow. However giving up on oil is ludicrous. It's worked for decades, we just handled it wrong.

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Frosty Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 7,108 iTrader: (1)	Dude we CAN'T build new refineries, the EPA laws don't allow it, hell the energy companies are still upgrading just to meet the new EPA standards(ExxonMobil just spent $450 million in Joliet, IL). There are other refineries that are in the same situation. We are NOT in the mess because we're stuck on oil, we're stuck on FOREIGN oil. To just snap a finger and switch to a different fuel is suicide. It's something that needs to gradually happen. We have an abundant amount of fossil energy here, why not use it? Like I said a million other times though, there's NO reason why we can't do it ALL. Drill, build refineries, go nuclear, invest in renewable sources. To be on one side of the fence on either side is flat out ignorant(not saying you are_. How about the Dems being dead set against pausing the fed gas tax yet not a single one of them will be paying it in Denver at the DNC? Pretty f'in ignorant, none of these politicians care, they get their gas cards and their 6 figure salaries, they're not impacted by these prices. They'd rather push whatever agenda they won't not matter how ridiculous it is. There so much red tape that even the alternative idea will take DECADES to become mainstream. There is no magic wand that will drop these prices tomorrow. However giving up on oil is ludicrous. It's worked for decades, we just handled it wrong. __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS Redline package, ESC Novi 1500 tuned by EFX, Might Mouse wild catch can, GM STB, smoked ZL1 3rd brake light, Xpel XR Black 35% tint all around, Street Scene front splitter, C7 Carbon ZL1 side skirts, Drake Muscle Car Wickerbill spoiler 2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol) Last edited by Frosty; 07-30-2008 at 03:55 PM.