[HeadlessNorseman]

Just tell him VW hasnt made a car worth owning in the last 20 years. see what that makes him say. I dont know how you can argue for vw when their top of the line sports car makes 200hp and is fwd

Edit: and yes the recent concensus is that their is virtually nothing different about modern japanese cars than modern american cars. I am a fan of toyota, but only because of cars like the mk3 supra and mr2. I think the original root cause of the "american cars are junk" thing came from cars like the cavalier, escort, and the K cars. The caddys, corvettes, mustangs, crown vics, impalas, all the fullsize cars in general have always been well built since the beginning. they can stfu!