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Originally Posted by jims69camaro
you make it sound so easy to put the bottle down. from your own experience you know it is not. anyone caught in the throes of alcoholism does not have the power to just put the bottle down. it takes counseling. it take group therapy. it takes years before they are strong enough to stand on their own, and still mistakes happen along the way.
i am a firm believer that there are only three destinations with alcoholism, and anyone who has been to a meeting with Bill W., knows this: death, prison or a mental institution. that's it, unless they hit rock bottom and have the help to get back up. unless a major life-changing event transpires, they continue down the toilet.
you can't tell alcoholism to just stop it. if you are afflicted with the disease, it is with you for the rest of your life. no ifs, ands or buts. and like cancer, it requires the intervention of a knowledgeable professional to help them back to health. with cancer, sometimes you are lucky and you just cut it out and it never comes back. you can't just cut out alcoholism and it doesn't come back. it is with you for the rest of your life, each day requiring the commitment to stay sober. one is too many, ten is not enough.
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We are gonna disagree on this topic big time (just like smoking). But I highlighted one key phrase "strong enough". Yes in order to combat the addiction one needs to have some balls, period. I view alcoholics as weak minded oxygen sucking pieces of crap that do not have a back bone and would not piss on you to put out a fire. Alcoholism is something that an individual brings upon themselves by drinking (doh). No one made him pick up that first bottle of Vodka and drink it, no one made him pick up the second one, or the third one. They do it themselves, they are the only one to blame for their addiction, and they are the only ones that can stop it. Surely some that do not have a back bone will need some big group of people to talk things about and give them a big hug but that's only because they are not strong enough (Weak minded, sissies, whatever you wanna call them) to do it themselves. I believe in personal responsibility and putting alcoholism in the disease column would not be doing so, it's not like anyone gets it from their neighbor.
Sorry I do not baby people that chose to screw up their life on their own initiative. Sure someone can bring up genetics and all that BS, which people often hide behind, which I do not believe, each individual makes a choice, and alcoholics made theirs. I do not see alcoholism and cancer being related in any shape or form. One is purely accidental and luck of the draw, the other one is self induced stupidity.