[transmaro93]

i dont know then... are you sure it was in open loop? i dont know what the difference is if someone wants to school me... i mean its worth a shot... im still gonna change the gas and disconnect the front o2's to see what happens... if neither of those work ill pull the plugs and see what is going on... i know all the coils and wires are good... but smelling the gas almost seems like its dumping to much gas and thats what the guy said it would do with open headers in closed loop.... i donno way to kill my dreams of it idling tomorrow adam... i almost slept a little easier...