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Old 12-22-2009, 11:33 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen View Post
From what I am hearing, good luck with that in this economy. If you got leads post them up there are a few guys out of school looking for jobs. Squirrel, Bad64C, maybe others.


As someone who has read 10000 resumes, you better not have no job for 8 months out of school. Gaps look bad. It's better to have a job than no job. And it's not like a potential employer will hold a supermarket job against you when you're looking for entry level stuff. In fact steady employment history is a bonus at that point in a career.

I'd make sure if you take a job like a supermarket gig you make sure your bosses are ok with flexibility so you have time to look for a 'real job' (any job that pays is a real job to me). Now, if supermarket management is what you want, that is cool, you're in.

Not sure any of this pertains to the OP though.
The way I figure it, accepting a job with such a low salary you are shooting yourself in the foot when attempting to negotiate a salary of a long term career; notice I did not say job. If you want to work for 20k for a few years and get a full time job making 35k because they KNOW you will take it, then by all means, go for it. I would sooner spend 6 months finding a job that makes 35k than take a job that pays 20k. Yes it may hurt in the short time but I guarantee you for your future job you will have a much better stance for negotiation, especially when the economy turns better. It all depends on how badly you can hurt now for relief later in life.

As far as leads go for jobs? I have tons. This is under the assumption that you have experience similar to mine however. I graduated with a B.S in computer science and information systems, have experience in computer forensics, and am going for my Masters in cyber security. I'm not saying I have tons of work experience, because I don't, but there are positions that I could take, mostly because of the fact that I am willing to relocate for them.

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Originally Posted by 91chevywt View Post
Have you seen the job market today? There are so many experienced people looking for jobs right now, and even more college grads with degrees that can't get work in their field of expertise. To enter the job market with an "i'm not taking any job lower than 40k a year" attitude with little job experience or a botched job history isn't going to get anyone very far. Having some type of income is better than nothing during times like this. Also, its more than just a paycheck at the end of the week. A person's job history says a lot to potential employers down the road.

Not saying you shouldnt explore your options, but every job has its benefits and drawbacks. You wouldnt get much from a supermarket right now, but after a couple years of employment they do take care of their employees. My girlfriend has been at a shoprite for 3 years and does pretty well with steady hours as a student. If I could do it all again I would have just worked at shoprite.
A large portion of people looking for jobs are going about it the wrong way. Going on monster.com is pretty much the worst way that you can do this. One needs to be proactive regarding job searches as I have seen many people doing on this board. Actively calling companies, firms, and businesses looking for openings that haven't been posted. Keeping in touch with HR reps and working up a reputation with people within a company. Most of the time it's who you know, not what you know (sad, I know).

I've been looking for a job for this summer and I am having a much more difficult time finding one than previous years. Fewer people are giving work and at a lesser rate. I've gone a few months now without a bite. This doesn't change the fact that I am rotating my contacts every day and doing everything in my power to get one.

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Originally Posted by bad64chevelle View Post
I wanna quote this because I dont know where you are, what your background is...but I know I am not the only one in this boat...Graduate with a bachelors, and I have lowballed the **** out of salaries just to try to GET a job, and it really does not work. When have a 13% unemployment rate, why the F would they hire a FRESH college student when they can hire someone with experience, alot more bills, and who is now WILLING to cut their salary tremendously.
I completely understand with this economy however finding a niche is the best way to get a job right now. At the moment getting "just a job" is extremely difficult because everyone is scrambling for one. Everyone is willing to do more work for less money than the person next door. Find something unique, file for unemployment, get training or education on that topic, and exploit the fact that you are one of the few people who know how to do it. I don't care if you learn japanese so you can stock the japanese shelves at the current super market you are at. You will be the only, if not one of two people that they have that can do that, and sooner or later guess what - you are a commodity. Your position, and salary will reflect that.


This is not me preaching or even recommendations for what you all should do since everyone is different, but I don't feel that my previous statements were that far fetched.
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