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Originally Posted by maroman88
and there's the typical problem, all those other cars are out now, 5 years is a loooong time! think retro styiling of the camaro vs mustang, pt cruiser vs hhr. the only thing gm keeps on pace with is its trucks
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Originally Posted by 1320B4U
^ 100% correct....we wait until the market is saturated to make a move.
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Eh, yes and no.
It's not that GM is late to the game, it's that GM chases trends too much instead of doing their own thing. Very rarely do they innovate, and when they do, they get a lot of **** for it.
Camaro and Mustang is always a thing. The retro-ness of the Camaro was dictated by you, the enthusiast, as that is what you demanded from GM, so you can't blame them for that. You DEMANDED the Camaro be brought back, you DEMANDED it look like an old one, just like the Mustang did, and they did it.
HHR was brought to and designed by the same two guys that did it at Chrysler. But GM chased a trend (tall, 5 seat, high design wagon), and wrapped it in a familiar retro body.
This is another case of GM chasing a trend. You didn't see Ford chase Chrysler into the PT market. You didn't see Toyota make a V8 powered Celica to chase after Mustang.
But in both cases, the Camaro and HHR beat out their respective counterparts in every single quantitative and qualitative area. HHR had more room, looked arguably better, offered better, more powerful powertrains, a better performance package, and sold more than the PT did. Same with Camaro.
GM sees the cult-like following of the new 86 car and they want a piece of that. So a bunch of engineers started putting computer models together and said, "yeah, we could probably build a car like that". The public says, "BUILD IT!!" and then it takes 2-3 years to make a car.
Chasing trends is what GM does. They have done it over, and over, and over, and over again. And those cars have become some of GM's most desired vehicles of all time.