[jims69camaro]

that's just the nature of people, ben. it'd be the same if there were free beer and hot wings and all they had to do was show up - hands down more would either forget, have something else to do or just not show up for whatever reason (laziness, unsociable, fears/phobias - the list is a long one).

i can agree that with those type of people the harder you push, the less likely they are to do something. which is why as hard as i have been pushing the idea i will draw the line at trying to get people who have not responded involved in it (even though i have to catch myself sometimes...). i will make the suggestion from time to time, just to be sure that the newer members get an opportunity to respond to it and that those who saw no potential in it to begin with, know that this is something that will happen, but the people who have left themselves out have done so for a reason and no matter what you, i or anyone says, they have made up their mind they don't want to get into it (at this time).

as stated, the closer we get to actually filming and certain tasks are available, that will be another opportunity for those who have left themselves out, or are waiting for a specific task that they can fulfill be their motivating force to get involved, to avail themselves at that time.

within the next day or so i will crunch the list again so we know what we have and what we need at this time. we need wireless mics for filming. we need people to finalize in their own mind the entire process that they are volunteering their vehicles for, and then get that process out on a piece of paper or in an email (sent to me or Al), be sure they can afford the parts (and get everything they need prior to filming). not to single you out, but you have said you'd like to do a segment on detailing the engine bay (which makes for an excellent example as some people just think, oh, ok, he's going to clean the engine). what cleaners will you use, how will you protect the electrical system from exposure, what exactly are the steps involved in the whole process, what additional resources will you need? we're going to need as detailed explanation as possible so that we allot the correct amount of time to the process. is this something you can do yourself, others can help out with, you just need one other pair of hands... ? i am sure most people have not even considered cleaning their engine bay only because they have no idea where to get started.

so, you see, just as someone who is going to replace/upgrade their front suspension, there is a process to what you will be doing and the storyboard needs to reflect that. to date all we have are a few ideas floating around that pretty much everyone can agree on should be included in filming. what i thought was going to be a storyboard meeting ended up being a bull-session (which i imagine most get-togethers will be, anyway) but it was productive none-the-less, as we have a few more people on board. i'd like to get my engine buildup involved in the process, but i am not sure that it falls under "average guy" or that people would actually be able to sit through an engine building (even partially)... and, i am not altogether sure it would be appropriate as this is the first bottom-to-top buildup i've ever done, and i'll most likely have my nose buried in a book to make sure i don't make a mistake. or if the timeline that is going to be involved would coincide with my plans for getting it into the car it's going into, which leads me to the next thing...

filming will take place in the spring. it's almost cast in stone. the semi-pro we will have helping us out agreed that spring would be a good time to start filming, as he has other committments until then and he thinks that since this will be our first sojourn into filmmaking that we'll need the time to complete pre-production before the first camera gets unpacked. hell, if we get close enough and we can find a weekend before then to do some experimenting on our own before spring, i say we do it. it'll give us that much more exposure to this before we actually get together to film the material we'll need for the pilot. but there are quite a few steps that need to be covered prior to that date so that we'll all be comfortable filming - and not feel like complete jackasses.