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Slo86Bird · 03-04-2008, 10:27 PM

i know theres some cops or people that work for the state on here, but what i wondering is if a "failure to provide papers" ticket causes an insurance raise if u plead guilty? i didnt have registration card in the car but i do have a valid registration.

GrandmasterCow · 03-04-2008, 10:35 PM

do you have a valid registration card? just show that you had valid registration on the date of the ticket and you should be fine.

SteveR · 03-04-2008, 10:36 PM

fight it in court. Tell the judge it was on your backseat and the cop wouldnt let you go get it. That happened to me once and I showed him the card and he let me go.

79CamaroDiva · 03-04-2008, 10:39 PM

they haven't been as lenient lately with paperwork tickets. its a non-moving violation, but it does carry a hefty fine.

SteveR · 03-04-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

they haven't been as lenient lately with paperwork tickets. its a non-moving violation, but it does carry a hefty fine.

yea, like $185 per document.

Slo86Bird · 03-04-2008, 10:55 PM

i already paid it cuz i didnt have time to go to court so thats why im curious

Tru2Chevy · 03-04-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by redneckpimpin351

i already paid it cuz i didnt have time to go to court so thats why im curious

It's not a moving violation, so it *shouldn't* affect your insurance.

- Justin

91DropTop · 03-04-2008, 11:35 PM

NJ just wants there money now, broke bastards

79T/A · 03-05-2008, 10:55 PM

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what i wondering is if a "failure to provide papers" ticket causes an insurance raise if u plead guilty? i didnt have registration card in the car but i do have a valid registration.

No, it doesn't. Your insurance won't suffer. Lots of cops prefer writing those to actual moving violations because you pay $185 once as opposed to years of insurance surcharges. Obviously, you didn't get pulled over for that as they haven't developed psychic powers for police officers yet, so you kind of got a break if that's the only ticket you got. If it were failure to produce an insurance card, you'd have had to go to court. The cop would already know you have a valid registration by running your plate through the computer. The law says you have to have the card.

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fight it in court. Tell the judge it was on your backseat and the cop wouldnt let you go get it. That happened to me once and I showed him the card and he let me go.

If you're going to go as far as pleading not guilty and you're going to go with that story, you'd better be telling the truth. Because if the cop is there to dispute it, and wants to, there will be a trial. And you can be found guilty or not guilty. Who is the judge going to believe when you say you did something and the cop says you didn't? And the cop has thirty days to write any additional summonses, so if you contest it, he/she can easily write the ticket for the offense you were stopped for. Not worth it in my opinion.

The statute for exhibiting documents is 39: 3-29. It's kind of long, but the last paragraph reads:

"If a person, charged with a violation of this section, can exhibit his driver's license, insurance identification card and registration certificate, which were valid on the day he was charged, to the judge of the municipal court before whom he is summoned to answer to the charge, such judge MAY dismiss the charge. However, the judge may impose court costs."

In other words, you'll either pay the full $185 by mail, the $185 plus court costs, or court costs. To me, it's not worth the gamble for a ticket that was issued instead of another most-likely more expensive ticket.

Slo86Bird · 03-06-2008, 06:02 PM

what happened was i got the ticket for no registration card and i just paid it cash cuz i dont have time to go to court for something stupid like that.

GP99GT · 03-06-2008, 06:18 PM

i got a ticket for no insurance card (had an expired one, but i DID have valid insurance) so i went to court with my valid insurance card and they dropped it

jims69camaro · 03-09-2008, 07:46 PM

yeah, more often than not, if you have valid "whatever" and you show it to the judge, he lets it go. since you were charged with failure to produce, though, that's a complete different story. most of the time the cops will write that you didn't have insurance or registration or whatever, legal at the time they stopped you. in that case, showing up with the valid paperwork is an instant dismissal.

to answer your question, since it's not a moving violation, your insurance company should ignore it and your rates should not be raised.

jimmyboy8301 · 03-11-2008, 08:57 AM

pretty much what everyone else said

BigAls87Z28 · 03-11-2008, 01:38 PM

I think the point most of us are trying to get across is....why did he pull you over? If it was for a moving violation, like speeding, then you got off easy.

jims69camaro · 03-13-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

I think the point most of us are trying to get across is....why did he pull you over? If it was for a moving violation, like speeding, then you got off easy.

don't go looking a gift horse in the mouth. he just might bite your nose off.

Knipps · 03-14-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

don't go looking a gift horse in the mouth. he just might bite your nose off.

BigAls87Z28 · 03-14-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

don't go looking a gift horse in the mouth. he just might bite your nose off.

Unless its a big wooden horse, a gift from your formers attackers for winning the war. It might be filled with goodness.