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TransAm · 05-25-2008, 10:38 PM

Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car.

procamaroz28 · 05-25-2008, 11:08 PM

t56!!!!!! lol jk

BonzoHansen · 05-26-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TransAm

Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car.

How much street & how much strip? How important is OD? Why isn't a 4L80E on the consideration list if you want OD with high HP?

Tru2Chevy · 05-26-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

How much street & how much strip? How important is OD? Why isn't a 4L80E on the consideration list if you want OD with high HP?

What he said....and also why not a 200 4R?

- Justin

TransAm · 05-26-2008, 05:06 PM

i got great prices on those two. The others cost a little to much as of now. Its more street then strip though

Tru2Chevy · 05-26-2008, 05:56 PM

I would go with the 700R4 if you're on the street more. As long as it's properly built it should handle that kinda power without much difficulty.

- Justin

BonzoHansen · 05-26-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

I would go with the 700R4 if you're on the street more. As long as it's properly built it should handle that kinda power without much difficulty.

- Justin

+1 you'll likely want OD for a street car. Make sure the TV cable is setup right.

badzracing · 06-07-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

What he said....and also why not a 200 4R?

- Justin

Unless you want to put a TON of money into a 200, they are worthless. I don't care what magazines say it's great, they are **** unless you spend $3000 to upgrade EVERYTHING.

Jersyboyy · 06-09-2008, 03:34 PM

700r4 is pretty good unless you can get your hands on a turbo400 and enough money to make it bullet proof

WildBillyT · 06-09-2008, 03:47 PM

No brainer. 700-R4.

badzracing · 06-09-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

700r4 is pretty good unless you can get your hands on a turbo400 and enough money to make it bullet proof

A stock junkyard t-400 is better than a "built" 700r4...and it isn't all that much to make a 400 handle 1000+ hp......less than $2000 WITH a torque converter

06-10-2008, 05:02 PM

add overdrive to it... theres your extra cost.

badzracing · 06-10-2008, 05:37 PM

4l80e with a manual tranny or hydraulic shift modifications are more expensive than a 400, but THE best option....bulletproof and overdrive....only drawback is that they are the size of a friggin jet-ski and weigh about 50,000lbs...at least that's what they feel like in 100 degree whether when you're picking it up by yourself

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 06:11 PM

What torque converter are you going to buy that will hold 1000+ hp? I only have a little over 800 and mine was like $1100. TH400 with a manual valve body, brake, pro mod drum, roller bearing conversion, ultra bell, and everything else can cost way over $2000 to build by itself.

But I am sure some dirt bag in a magazine you read dug one out of a hole in a junkyard in west virginia then threw some new frictions in it and now it is in a car that goes 8's for under $100 and a bag of Skittles.

BonzoHansen · 06-10-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

What torque converter are you going to buy that will hold 1000+ hp? I only have a little over 800 and mine was like $1100. TH400 with a manual valve body, brake, pro mod drum, roller bearing conversion, ultra bell, and everything else can cost way over $2000 to build by itself.

But I am sure some dirt bag in a magazine you read dug one out of a hole in a junkyard in west virginia then threw some new frictions in it and now it is in a car that goes 8's for under $100 and a bag of Skittles.

Old Skittles are like ball bearings.....

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 08:01 PM

taste the rainbow of HORSEPOWER

badzracing · 06-10-2008, 08:16 PM

Thanks for assuming I read dirtbag magazine articles, but my dad owns a high performance tranny shop and therefore I have a little tranny knowledge myself. I GUARANTEE you I can get you a 400 converter that'll handle 1200hp for less than $1000.... and a spragless unit that candle handle quite a bit more for probably around $1000.

Pro-mod drum? are you serious? You thought with 800hp you needed a pro-mod drum?
And this roller bearing conversion...are you talking about replacing all the thrust-washers with torringtons? That's a whole $50 "mod"......

I don't know who's doing your trannies, but I stand by my previous statement and can/will build one with a converter that will easily handle your 800hp for UNDER $2000...and it will be tested (on a dyno) AND guaranteed.

badzracing · 06-10-2008, 08:20 PM

If you want to start adding transbrakes/ alto and kolenes/ aluminum drums/ ultra bells/ different first gear sets/ straight cut gears....then yeah, the price would be quite a bit more, but a 400 doesn't need all that **** to handle a lot of horsepower. We have customers who have proved that for many, many years.

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 08:31 PM

By your own words your trans would have to built for under $1000 RETAIL core included. It is alot cheaper to build a hi-po box when all the parts are at your fingertips and you dont count your labor.

I never made any deragatory statements towards you personally so you have nothing to get all heated up over.

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 08:36 PM

I have people that I consider family that own a trans shop as well. In fact they build boxes for some of the best and fastest bracket/top sportsman racers in the country.

All I ask is that when you go throwing numbers around be they HP or monetary please be realistic or else you are just making everyone's job harder.

WildBillyT · 06-10-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TransAm

Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car.

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but he DOESN'T need a trans capable of holding nearly 1000-2000hp.

Given that his power ratings are modest and that it's a street car, I'd figure that that means no extra clutch packs or special valve bodies or even a really hot converter. Whatever will work reliably, keep the price down, and given the cost of gas keep him away from the pump as much as possible.

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 08:47 PM

you are absolutely correct. feel free to clean up this thread if you like

WildBillyT · 06-10-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

you are absolutely correct. feel free to clean up this thread if you like

Nah, I'll let it be. Not that big a deal.

Josh, I am curious though. What would you recommend?

JSPERFORMANCE · 06-10-2008, 09:04 PM

Depending on the application. If he is honestly going to keep it mostly to the street a correctly prepared 700 will better suit his needs, The overdrive will allow a steeper gear out back which will help with et while retaining some driveability when off of the track.

If it was more of a strip car with occaisional around town cruising then the 350 would be a more cost effective and simple route while remaining durable as well. Also the 350 has less rotating mass so that would help as well when it comes to shaving tenths.

I have a few th350s out there in street cars that run anywhere from 11s to 9.70s so they will definately hold up under power again if properly prepared.

Easy response:
mostly street=700
mostly strip=350

badzracing · 06-10-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

I have people that I consider family that own a trans shop as well. In fact they build boxes for some of the best and fastest bracket/top sportsman racers in the country.

All I ask is that when you go throwing numbers around be they HP or monetary please be realistic or else you are just making everyone's job harder.

I only took it personal because you made it that way. You questioned my knowledge and whether I could possibly deliver on the statement/s I made. I will put one of our transmissions up against anybody's.

As far as the converter statement I made, that was directed to you, not to the statement I made about the TC and Tranny for under $2000.....I said the tranny would be capable of a 1000+ ( chances are that there aren't too many cars on here with that) and the fact that he said he will have around 500hp means he doesn't need a billet, all out race converter. After all I was talking to the original author who was asking for advice. The 400 subject came up and i offered my opinion on that.

I apologize to the moderators, and the author of this thread for hi-jacking it.